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Old 10-01-2013, 01:52 PM   #136
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You mean war ? I was thinking of that.
Selection does not mean that the a member of a species with an unwanted feature does have to die, it is sufficient if this member does not breed.
 
Old 10-01-2013, 03:35 PM   #137
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I doubt human evolution has stopped. It may have slowed due to the path our species has taken but that does not mean we have stopped evolving. Evolution is not limited to observable physical characteristics but also includes things that are not visible. There was an article in an Australian newspaper a few years ago now that said humanity is as different to humans 5kya as they were to the first Homo Sapien Sapien. We are all still Homo Sapien Sapien but we are still different and that difference is through the process of evolution. I'll try to find an online version of the article and I'll post a link to it.
 
Old 10-01-2013, 08:45 PM   #138
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Evolution is of course most-easily seen in insects and other creatures that have a very short life-cycle and very prolific reproductive proclivities. The gene pool, so to speak, "turns-over frequently and quickly." And there has to be a fair amount of pressure ... enough to kill off the non-adapters but without killing-off everyone.

Darwin was probably spot-on when he carefully said, "The Origin of Species," and of course, we see that scientists are naming new "species" (after themselves, of course) constantly. It's really a gray area.
 
Old 10-01-2013, 09:11 PM   #139
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Many viruses (sounds like a youtube thing) and bacteria only need a few years to evolve.

Edit\add: We're all products of our environment how does that evade evolution?

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Old 10-04-2013, 06:18 AM   #140
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Wow, nice to see in my Lifetime.

Bigfoot lives!? Existence backed by DNA, video

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Bigfoot is real, and there's now both DNA and video evidence to prove it, claims one group of devoted Sasquatch researchers.

The group's "never-before-seen footage" of an alleged Bigfoot creature sleeping in the woods of Kentucky has been presented this week along with various blood and hair samples said to be unlike anything seen before.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...#ixzz2ghmHjJx9

Now if only we had some alien DNA and 1st class evidence, then I will be a happy camper.
 
Old 10-09-2013, 04:43 PM   #141
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I'm going to throw in a website containing misconceptions about evolution:
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolib...ptions_faq.php

It contains lots of interesting info on the subject.
 
Old 10-09-2013, 06:30 PM   #142
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I'm going to throw in a website containing misconceptions about evolution:
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolib...ptions_faq.php

It contains lots of interesting info on the subject.
Thanks! That is, indeed, a very good resource. Thanks for pointing it out.

Y'know, I just think that we all need to candidly admit to ourselves that we all want to know ... The Meaning Of Life, The Universe, And Everything.™ We want to hold it in the palm of our hand. Hell, (Heaven?), we want to hold God (Buddha? Vishnu? Zeus? Aladdin? Suzanne?) there. "Yes, right there!" Right in the palm of our hands! No more questions, no more mysteries, nothing more to be blown-away about. "The world is flat, goddam it, and that settles it! I don't care what shadow you thought you saw on the Moon, Mr. Galileo!"

... ...

"Sux to be human, doesn't it? And mortal, on top of that? Really sux!!"

And yet, "here we (all) are."

Evolution is, without a doubt, a rather easily verifiable biological fact. The natural world does have a built-in self-adaptation mechanism of considerable power and influence. Said influence is enough to explain at least "the origin of Species" ... or so we suppose, pending the next astounding revelation (e.g. "the world is actually square" ... hey, it could happen).

Does that mean "Therefore, We Came From Monkeys And Therefore, There Is No God?" Well, I hate to break it to ya, but the short answer is "No," and the long answer is, "We Haven't Got A Cloo and We Never Will."

Sux to be human. However, it does mean that our capacity to Wonder is inexhaustible. Which, maybe, is not such a bad thing after all. Myself, I'd hate to look up at the Stars at night and feel that I actually knew everything that there was to know about them.

... or ... (and this is just my personal belief) ... about their Source.

Wow. Such a Source of endless imagination, creativity, and beauty. I'd sure like to meet <him | her | it> someday, after the game is over and my earthly quarter has been spent. That outcome would be so cool ...

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Old 10-09-2013, 08:08 PM   #143
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. . . infinitely wrong . . .

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Old 10-10-2013, 09:08 AM   #144
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I can handle the notion of being "infinitely wrong," 'specially since I'm not "infinite" and never claimed to be. Guess I always had a bit of a problem with those who proclaimed themselves to be "infinitely right."

The human condition is: we're stuck on one planet for give-or-take seventy years; maybe less, maybe (beep! beep! lookout!) "much le"



"Evolution" as an easily-verifiable biological mechanism? No doubt. "Evolution" as "the origin of Species?" An interesting thought. (And, by the way, you definitely should read the book.) "Evolution" as "life, the universe, and everything?" I think that "42" is a much better answer.
 
Old 10-10-2013, 01:12 PM   #145
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I must have missed where someone said that Darwin's theory of evolution was the answer to the really big question. I prefer 42 for that as well.

Regarding your stated personal preference:
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... about their Source. Wow. Such a Source of endless imagination, creativity, and beauty. I'd sure like to meet <him | her | it> someday, after the game is over and my earthly quarter has been spent. That outcome would be so cool ....
Cool indeed, if true, but if you regard that as a basis for a belief in some sort of god thing, I will point out that this is a type of non sequitur, called the argument from incredulity, or the divine fallacy. It goes something like, "I can't figure it out..., it's all so amazing..., I can't think of another explanation..., so it must be god." or, if you prefer aliens, it's the alien fallacy, etc... This is not to say that I have it all figured out, not at all, merely that the argument from incredulity in no way demonstrates some god/aliens/whatever created "life, the universe, and everything."
 
Old 10-10-2013, 01:31 PM   #146
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in a way we* are the aliens who evolve from cosmic matter (and if infinite (like I believe) aliens do exist elsewhere agnosticly perhaps evolved to plant seeds for planets or solar systems) some who believe in "god" or "spirit" must believe they are eternal or want

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Old 10-10-2013, 01:59 PM   #147
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Can we get away from "god" in this thread?
 
Old 10-11-2013, 01:37 PM   #148
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Can we get away from "god" in this thread?
God says: "Yeah, keep me out of it, or verily I shall smite thee!"
 
Old 10-11-2013, 04:02 PM   #149
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I saw big foot fighting with the six million dollar man. Also, on a remote island I saw apes dressed in military type outfits.

You know, we had a chance to come from flies, but Vincent Price killed this evolution when he killed the fly with the human head. tisk tisk tisk...
 
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