Evening:

I have an HP2000-210US that has a serious problem(s)! I believe it is a failed/failing CPU, although that has not been proven! So, was wondering, could I replace the current processor (Intel-Pentium P6200@2.13GHz (x2)) with either an I3 or I5 and have it fit the MoBo and the same space/configuration? The MoBo is designated I.D#3674. Also, does anyone know of a program I could run that would give a comprehensive evaluation of the major hardware?
THANK YOU:
Rick

Typically CPUs are not upgradable.

http://www.intel.com/support/process.../CS-031726.htm
http://www.memtest.org/
https://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html

The P6200 uses the the PGA988 socket. Desktop i3/i5 CPUs will simply not fit, they use the LGA technique instead, with a different pin-layout.
Please describe exactly why you think that it is the CPU that is failing. From my experience it is very rare that a CPU is failing, in almost all cases it is one of the other components.

Reply to: TobiSGD

As you'll recasll, in my post, I stated it is not "confirmed" the CPU is the culprit. Something is very, very wrong with the laptop!!! It seems to me, when apps/programs start failing, not functioning correctly or properly, if basic hardware starts malfunctions that cause serious damage to periphial devices, my first thought is the CPU. Should you feel it something else, feel free to express your thoughts. I have asked for and received directions to software that will check most(it not all) of the major hardware, and once I've got that program and run it, I will then know what the exact cause of the problems are. BTW, you can install/replace 3 different processors besides the one installed...those use the same G1 socket and HWM55 chipset! No, I cannot upgrade to an i5 processor, but I can, should I choose to, upgrade to a first-gen i3. Just some FYI. For the cost of the first-gen i3, I may just upgrade anyway, even if I should find the CPU is not faulty. I must run a comprehensive diagnostic tool on the laptop, for it has some serious/major problems!!! Should you wish to know what some of those problems are, please inquire and I'll post them. Thank You for your response.
Stay Sharp:
Rick

Reply to: michaelk

Ahm...I got contradictory information to what you supplied. Please check this site, then get back to me with your thoughts! THANK YOU

http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Hardwar...4970771#M53227
Rick

I can't know or even guess what is wrong with your system without having hard data, that is why I asked how you did come to that conclusion, it may give us insights on what is faulty in your system. Tell us how exactly the machine fails and of course see if the provided diagnosis tools will find something. Replacing the CPU can probably give you some answers, but it may be a waste of money if the problem is not caused by it and in the end repair costs are higher than costs of a new machine. It may indeed be possible that the CPU is the culprit, but as I said, from my experience (and I have literally built thousands of PCs, diagnosed and repaired hundreds) it is almost never the CPU, but other hardware components.

I am wrong... but as TobiSGD has stated make sure you have verified that really is the problem.

Reply to: TobiSGD

I realize you don't know what's wrong with this laptop. Neither do I!! I was just stating that I 'think" it's the CPU. Maybe not???
OK, this is going to be a very long, involved post....be warned!!!
#1. After install of Linux Mint17, built-in camera failed. OK, at first it would run, but only for a short time, then go 'black" and report"No Device Found" or "Problems displaying video". I am now running Andriod O.S, via CD and same thing....camera came on 3 separate occasions and on last occasion went "black" after maybe 4 0r 5 mins. operation.
#2. There are times I've D/l movies, music, O.S's etc. only to have them disappear...in other words once D/l, they could not be found anywhere in the system.
#3. The USB ports (3x-2.0) are all corrupted to the point of in the last 2 months it's wasted beyond repair 2-4Gb pendrives and 1-8Gb pendrive. Each consequent corruption resulted in ruining the MBR, or a least the sector(s) where the MBR is loaded, beyond repair/rebuild.
#4. This may be the O.S---Lately, I've deleted items, only to have them show up again after a few days or maybe a week?
#5. Sound Juicer Ripper would work well for maybe 3 or 4 rips, then just crash, to which I'd "uninstall"/reinstall and it would start the same process over again.
#6. Using the "mousepad" within the laptop, sometimes cursor will just "jump" out-of-site or to the edge of screen without being touched/activated.
#7. Sometimes the O.S. boots within a reasonable amount of time, other times, it takes forever/far too long to boot.
#8. Lately, it's freezing/hanging an awful lot. Sometimes it recovers, other times, I've waited 5-7 mins, then had to do a hard shutdown. (Again, these last 2 issues COULD be O.S)
#9. I've had data in the trash that wouldn't 'permanently" delete or even try to delete from trash.
#10. When watching online TV or movie, system will heat up and of course, the fan runs considerably faster. If I run a DVD, or D/l movie, it doesn't run as "hard/hot" (Graphics card?)
#11. I've had some programs "lock" within the system for no reason and had to remove them/re-install them if it would let me, sometimes I had to wipe/re-install entire O.S. because certain vital programs wouldn't open or activate????
#12. Twice it's just 'shut off". Was watching a TV show the first time, the second time I was typing an e-mail and it just went blank/shut off.
#13. I use Google talk for long distance calls. Sometimes it works, sometimes it says "I must install Google Talk"???
#14. I have 3 Gb RAM, but just Monday, I ran a "memtest" and it said I had 2 Gb Ram? So, pulled and tested RAM (1-1Gb and 1-2Gb) separately and both "tested" fine?
Right now, I'm running an Andriod O.S via a CD. Not taking chance wasting another pendrive. I'd had LinuxMint17.1 64bit on those pendrives before they went bad. When I had Ubuntu 12.04, before LM17,the camera, Sound Juicer and Google talk all worked well. I've since tried to use Ubuntu 14.04 Xfce with same disastrous results as LM17??? And, I've not listed some of the smaller quirks that MAY just be the needing to tweak LM17. No matter what, this laptop has several fallacies and it getting worse almost daily. Just look around the several 'linux/ubuntu" forums and you'll see multiple threads of mine posted in the past 9 months all relating to the problems I've previously mentioned (and then some). Could it be the O.S's I'm using...maybe some of the problems, but not all of them. So, until I get the "diagnostic tool" and run it, I can't say for certain what the problem of the laptop is.
Here are the specs: HP2000-210US LM17.1 Xfce 64bit(currently running Android 4.2 from CD) Intel Processor P6200@2.13GHz(x2) HP VGA built-in webcam 3-2.0 USB ports. I realize this is a very long(and I didn't list EVERY quirk) post and I'm NOT expecting an instant analysis. Just that you asked!!!!
THANX:
Rick

REPLY TO: michaelk

Yes, must run the diagnostic tool, then we'll know for sure what the problem(s) is!
Rick

After reading your post and thinking about, I think that the symptoms you describe do not point to a faulty CPU, instead I strongly suspect that the motherboard in your system is malfunctioning. It is the only component in the system that can cause all the symptoms you describe.
You keep asking for "the" diagnostic tool to help you, but there is simply not a one-size-fits-all diagnostic tool that can reliably detect which component is faulty in your system. There are many small diagnostic tools for specific purposes that have to be used in conjunction to get a feeling for what can be defective. The Ultime Boot CD michaelk linked to in an earlier post contains many of them and can be used for diagnostic purposes. These tools will of course help for further insights, but at this point I am pretty confident that it is the motherboard that is causing the problems.

Morning TobiSDG

Yes, I SHOULD run the diagnostic tool, if only to eliminate "suspects". It could be I'll find the CPU, graphics card, internet chip...etc. to be in proper operating condition, then I'm eliminating, step-by-step, the components. Perhaps there is not a diagnostic tool that covers every hardware part, but then, by process of elimination, I may not have to test every component. OK, if, in your opinion, it is a faulty MoBo, I've got to make a decision as to whether this laptop is worth investing $60 to $100 in another MoBo, or whether it would be prudent to just invest that amount of money in a new laptop. I appreciate your response and when I finally do determine the faulty part, I'll let you/everyone know.
Thank You and Stay Sharp:
Rick

Trust me, it's NOT.

In my humble opinion, these days with the inexpensive systems available and the very fast movement of new technologies, I feel it is absolutely not worth putting in repair electronics for a laptop which is more than a few years old. Especially to that degree. Firstly, what constitutes a general computer? Motherboard, including processor and memory, most of them have graphics interfaces, serial interfaces, sound interfaces, USB interfaces, network interfaces, and other new conveniences. So what's left? Case, power supply, disk(s), and interface components (keyboard, mouse, screen). Basically the motherboard on any computer is the most important part. Yours is old, as are the rest of the system. What if you find that the power supply is questionable next?

So that's just my opinion.

Oh, and for this:YES, it's called BIOS

Evening rtmistler

Thanks for responding. Yes, your response is taken into account. I must, first, determine what EXACTLY is the root-of-the-evil. Yes, should it be the MoBo, it's doubtful I'll replace it. The least expensive I could find was $50. I wouldn't get a used one and the new ones ranged from $50 to $140.(quite a price range, wouldn't you say?)However, if it would turn out to be the processor, well, I can get a new and upgraded one for under/around $10. So, first and foremost, I must get the diagnostic program and run it. Then I'll go on from there. Gawd, 5 yrs. is "old"? LOL LOL Makes me ancient, then!
Stay Sharp:
Rick

You keep harping about a diagnostic. Did you fail to notice where I cited BIOS?

I am not quite sure how you would run diagnostic programs like Memtest, Prime95, harddisk diagnosis tools and the likes in your BIOS.

SOME Bios do have diagnostics, but by far not all, and most that do have diagnostics only has diagnostics for memory and hard drive.

Memtest checks both core cpu plus cpu caches(somewhat) plus memory(RAM).