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roofy 05-10-2003 07:08 PM

computer science degree
 
hey guys whats a better degree for the all around geek, a computer science degree, or an information technology degree?

manthram 05-10-2003 07:13 PM

degree is just a paper and nothig more. doesnt matter what it says, all that matters is what you learn on your own while trying to get your name on that paper

Whitehat 05-10-2003 09:20 PM

This will suck....but I will say it anyway.

I think IT degrees bite. Myself and others have been better off getting a business degree and just learning IT on your own.

College seems to think that IT degree's are all about math and programming. They don't teach you jack about Networking, and Cisco, and OS's.

We have a guy at work that just graduated with a degree in CS and the Boss is like......"wow this guy don't know shit. I have guys that have no degree but got their MCSE's and have 5 years experience and are way better off"

NO KIDDING.

Until something changes, IT and CS degrees suck.

Thanks,
30 year old Network Engineer with MCSE, Linux+ and 5 years of experience (and a Marketing degree that is worthless )

roofy 05-10-2003 09:36 PM

oh i kno trust me, im a ccna at 16 years old, but i dunno what to take in college to increase my carreer prospects

nakkaya 05-10-2003 09:47 PM

you need the name on that paper to get a job but that is not enough cause if you look for job in blizzard or google(these are the ones i look on the net) they want a cs degrre but they also want you to learn thing that are not thought in college.

roofy 05-10-2003 09:55 PM

well im sure i wouldnt learn anything new in college i just want the degree for job security

Crashed_Again 05-11-2003 02:41 AM

The IT market STINKS right now. Become a lawyer or a doctor and mess with Linux at your house. Theres a billion people out there, including myself, staring aimlessly at there degree everyday.

MasterC 05-11-2003 03:47 AM

Be a pharmacy Tech and play with Linux. Best way to go :)

Cool

roofy 05-11-2003 11:46 AM

well if the it market is that bad i might as well kill myself, cuz thers nothing else i can do lol

acid_kewpie 05-11-2003 11:51 AM

Your original question really isn't valid... you can't say what a degree will comprise of just by the title. Course content can vary so so so much depending on the uniersity. My uni was extremely theoretical, most of my course for "computer systems engineering" were about algorithm optimisation and digital filter design.... meanwhile other unis take a much more hand on approach, around networking and programming, which was a much smaller part of my course. A degree isn't an off the shelf package like a certification is...

moeminhtun 05-11-2003 12:08 PM

Re: computer science degree
 
Quote:

Originally posted by roofy
hey guys whats a better degree for the all around geek, a computer science degree, or an information technology degree?
It's depand on your specilization. Both are not very different each other. Don't listen to others who says computer degree is not good.. They say because they didn't get the compute degree.
First of all, you need computer degree if you want to be a computer professional. If you take a computer degree., you will get all the basic knowledge of all the areas like, data comunication, networking, programming, internet, operation system architecture, digital signal processing, software engineering, etc..
For example, in this forum, there are a lot of Linux guru. But there are so many of them who don't know programming at all. So they can only be Linux system administrator or network administrotor, or techinicial, that's it. They can't be higher than this.
So take a computer degree if you aim higher.

roofy 05-11-2003 01:13 PM

thanks moeminhtun, i was just wondering who would get paid more a cs degree or it degree, or who would look smarter on paper

dsnuggs 10-21-2003 04:29 PM

I agree with moeminhtun. Also, a degree proves that you can learn at a high standard, and retain the information in your head.
:-)

schatoor 10-21-2003 05:08 PM

Where I come from, universities teach you how to be an academic. Let me clarify. "Regular" education teach you how to do stuff that is essentially already known. The information of how to administer an network is already out there, you just got to learn it.
But someone who is an academic goes deeper then that and does research on things that are not yet known, like looking for an better algorithm to compress speech.
It really depends on what you want to do. That's probably the obvious answer you folks forgot to give. Do you want to administer an network, or do you want to push the frontier of what is known?

williamwbishop 10-21-2003 05:20 PM

You want IT management, and take all your certs while you are getting it. True, CIS degrees don't mean you know anything...In fact, from experience they almost certainly IMPLY it. And I know a lot of people with IS and CIS degrees who realize it's a worthless degree. But the management of IS is a nice field, pays well, and opens up a lot of opportunities. I just wish I could say I like IS managers, but mostly their ineffective...But that's what management generally is, a buffer between people who know even less(paper pushers) and those who know how it works, but can't stand the paper pushers.


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