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100 million facebook users have settings which show their account to the whole wide world. Hardly stolen data if a scraper comes along.....
It is the users responsibility to make their account open/(semi)closed to the world. It is Facebook's responsibility to make this an easy task AND to set sensible default settings.
Whoa! I would seriously want a discount offer from them. If I could only get the remaining $100million. Could I get a micro loan from every member of LQ possibly? I promise to pay back. I look at a fighter jet as an investment.
On a serious note, I'm guessing it is employees that use their jobs Internet connection to download this files, and not representatives thinking of using this in a tactical manner.
Yet another good reason not to join/use/trust social media.
Aha! It's just the public information? That's not bad. Not legal in Norway though, but I thought someone managed to hack in to facebook and download the whole deal from all users.
Oh, and I've got a brilliant idea. I download the list, and ask everyone on the list for a micro loan of 10 dollar. It's so perfect! I need only success rate of 1/10
100 million facebook users have settings which show their account to the whole wide world. Hardly stolen data if a scraper comes along.....
It is the users responsibility to make their account open/(semi)closed to the world. It is Facebook's responsibility to make this an easy task AND to set sensible default settings.
Morally wrong? Maybe. Stolen? No.
Just my 2c.
If you don't bother to lock your car and someone just drives away with it, it IS your stupidity, but the fact remains that the car has been STOLEN.
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I'm guessing it is employees that use their jobs Internet connection to download this files, and not representatives thinking of using this in a tactical manner.
Yeah, most probably it's the case, but still I like the list of companies: Disney and Lockheed Martin. I guess they are not much different after all
If you don't bother to lock your car and someone just drives away with it, it IS your stupidity, but the fact remains that the car has been STOLEN.
Insurance companies do not see it that way. Tell them you didn't lock your car/house/bike/whatever and it got stolen: They will not pay you a dime!
BTW: I don't think it is fair to compare digital crime with real life crime. That is one of the issues that's being fought over at the moment and the judges are still out on that one. In that sense I believe that leaving your on-line profile wide open to the world is essentially different from leaving your house/car/... open (unlocked to be precise).
Insurance companies do not see it that way. Tell them you didn't lock your car/house/bike/whatever and it got stolen: They will not pay you a dime!
You're right here. But then again, if the police caught the thief, he would be found guilty of stealing your (unlocked) car. I don't think there would be much scope for
interpretation.
Absolutely.Couldn't agree more.
If you are stupid enough to post personal information on sites like Facebook,be prepared to accept the consequences.
Fair enough, but let's be fair: some people don't live in a computer world. They don't read Slashdot. They don't know what threats are out there or how risky it is to put your personal details. How can they know that there are some sad individuals trying to harvest their personal data? You can't call all of them stupid, just because they are not up-to-date with the internet world and they still have trust in humanity.
Our (people interested in computers) minds work differently. What's obvious for us might not be that obvious for other people. A few days ago my friend told me that she doesn't have internet connection any more. She added: "When I open IE, it just says that it can't find the page. What happened?"
I just laughed at her and said that there might be hundreds of reasons and having only this information there is no way I could diagnose what the matter was.
Still I wouldn't call her stupid. She's probably much more intelligent than I am.
even better? some corporations offer lame discount coupons if you allow them complete access to your entire facebook account and everything you ever posted. A certain factory of cheese was doing this for a new product.
Fair enough, but let's be fair: some people don't live in a computer world. They don't read Slashdot.
I don't either.
I don't work in IT or read slashdot.
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How can they know that there are some sad individuals trying to harvest their personal data? You can't call all of them stupid, just because they are not up-to-date with the internet world and they still have trust in humanity.
Because the internet is a 'public' place,and yes some people will abuse this great resource.
What really bugs me is that people do not want to take responsibility for their actions.
The emphasis being with whomever harvests the personal data,not the person who put it there in the first place.
Just as in British law,ignorance is no defence.
Perhaps we should put some effort into warning people of the dangers of posting personal details rather than bitching about it in the LQ general forum.
Last edited by the trooper; 08-01-2010 at 03:39 AM.
Perhaps we should put some effort into warning people of the dangers of posting personal details rather than bitching about it in the LQ general forum.
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