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bru 03-30-2005 10:40 PM

College Degree and UNIX/Linux admin job
 
Hello all,

I have a quick question for those that might know,
Would a degree in Computer and Information Science (CIS) be enough to get in the Unix Systems Administration door at the junior level? Or is Computer Science a better choice.

The reason I ask is because a degree in CIS is the only option that I have available to me at this time.

trey85stang 03-30-2005 11:56 PM

degree in IT or IS... it generally does not matter which depending on the specific role and company though.

bigjohn 04-03-2005 10:30 AM

but whatever degree you have, you'll often still get the old "I'd like to offer you something, but you don't have QUITE enough experience. Sorry" excuse!

reddazz 04-03-2005 11:20 AM

In some places, experience counts more than degrees, but its best to have both a degree and a few certifications.

Tux_Phoenix 04-03-2005 06:32 PM

I am in a CIS degree right now and while my teachers like Linux we don't talk about it in class much. A IS or TSM (telecommunications System Man.) Degree is what is offered at my school for futore SysAdmins. I am doing both with a CSC major TSM minor.

Padma 04-04-2005 11:27 AM

From my experience, it doesn't matter so much *what* the specific degree is, as much as that you *have* a degree. Having a degree means that you had the enthusiasm and "stick-to-it-iveness" to set a long-range goal and follow it through.

Experience can be very important, and often will make-or-break a deal. Of course, there is the vicious circle: " I can't get a job without experience, and I can't get experience without a job!" So make sure you gain at least *some* experience while still in school, helping run their systems, for instance.

Crashed_Again 04-04-2005 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigjohn
but whatever degree you have, you'll often still get the old "I'd like to offer you something, but you don't have QUITE enough experience. Sorry" excuse!
I hear that brother. Its crazy. If I just worked in the field for the four years I went to college would I have enough experience. Probably yes but then I would get:

"I'm sorry. We are looking for somebody with a college degree."

Unreal.

trey85stang 04-04-2005 11:45 PM

its a catch 22, It took me 2 years worth of contract work to get hired on with the company i work for now without a degree. I have seen many fresh college grads walk through the door and telling me they have no idea what they are doing.

It really depends on the company. IT especially seems tough.. they want exp. + a degree for entry level positions. In the engineering side of this company... they hire fresh engineering grads all day long. At least 5-6 engin=eering grads a week start here. Some even get relocation :eek:

Crashed_Again 04-05-2005 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by trey85stang
its a catch 22, It took me 2 years worth of contract work to get hired on with the company i work for now without a degree. I have seen many fresh college grads walk through the door and telling me they have no idea what they are doing.

It really depends on the company. IT especially seems tough.. they want exp. + a degree for entry level positions. In the engineering side of this company... they hire fresh engineering grads all day long. At least 5-6 engin=eering grads a week start here. Some even get relocation :eek:

5 to 6 a week? WOW. Who do you work for NASA?

bru 04-05-2005 06:25 PM

Looks a little like I forgot to mention something! I am going to an online college, the college is fully accredited, or the Air Force would not pay for it.

This is a major set back in as far as getting in on the computer experence at the college.

At my job there is a network, but I am not on the Admin team. My job says I should be but I got the shaft.




Padma:
What was your AFSC when you were in?


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