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Old 12-10-2004, 07:45 PM   #1
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Christmas Spirit


OK, I need some outside oppinions from some people with the same interests as me.

My wife has gotten me an AMAZING Christmas gift. Now,s this isn't a problem except that it costs $260. To give you a feeling as to how this falls in with my family finance situation, I was thinking about a $30 "limit" on Christmas presants this year... like she (or I) would have kept it under, but it gives you a feel for where I am financially.

Anyway, my lovely wife got me a lifetime subscription to 2600 "Hacker's Quarterly."

On one hand I'm so amazed; it's an incredibly thoughtful gift. I plan on subscribing for at least 20 years, so it's a good deal. I believe strongly in the publication and I'm grad that my family supports it.

On the other hand, it's $260!

One last thing, did I mention that my wife and I just had our first child in September?

Ok, so the big question... Do I ask her to cancel the subscription?

Thanks in advance for any input.

MrKnisely
 
Old 12-10-2004, 07:58 PM   #2
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Well I don't think you'll be able to get the 'right' answer from any of us... you'll need to do what you think is right for you and your family. An easy way to get a feel for this is to perhaps think of alternate ways that $260 could be used -- and if you think it is better used on the Quarterly, then go for it. Hope you have a good holiday.
 
Old 12-10-2004, 09:03 PM   #3
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She got it because she loves you.
You can't put a price on that!

Happy Days Holly!
 
Old 12-10-2004, 09:06 PM   #4
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I think you should do whatever you think she'll go with best. You know your wife, she loves you. She wouldn't do this just to be nice or because she felt like disobeying your price limit.
 
Old 12-10-2004, 11:42 PM   #5
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My question to you would be: Which is more important to you in the long run - $260, or seriously hurting your wife's feelings, which she'll remember every single Christmas for the rest of her life?

I say be happy with your gift, and heck, maybe the two of you can make a New Year's resolution that in 2005, "We both agree only to spend X dollars on Christmas gifts next year. And we mean it!!" -- J.W.
 
Old 12-11-2004, 02:33 AM   #6
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She did it to make you happy - no other reason. Think how hard it is sometimes to find a good gift for someone, usually it's a compromise. She found what she thought was the "perfect" gift for you and bought it, even though it's way over budget.

I understand the financial problem, but some things are worth more than money. J.W.'s right - you'll end up paying way more than $260 if you don't accept the gift. I'm sure you'll be able to cut corners elsewhere to compensate. Who needs food?
 
Old 12-11-2004, 03:30 AM   #7
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I agree with the above but I going to tell you a story that might help you decide.

My mom does cross-stitching and was making one for my dad for Christmas many years ago (15-20 although I'm not sure exactly how long). She hadn't completed it yet so she gave it to him and told him she would finish it. My dad being the naive ignorant man he was at the time said "well that was a cheap gift" referring to the price. Although he has been forgiven, to this day that cross-stitch still hasn't been completed (although the past few years have been because my mom has arthritis not because of the long grudge, even though she still brings it up in joking).

The point is that your wife bought that for you because she loves you and if you make her feel bad about it you may never live it down. On the other hand I think I see your dilemna.

You don't want your wife to feel bad that you didn't spend as much money on her as she did on you. Take my word for it, it really is the thought that counts. See what you can do with around $30. Maybe you could make up a coupon book for different things like a back rub, taking care of your new baby for a night, or maybe going to wherever you had your first date. You wouldn't believe how far a little creativity will go. In my expirience (and observing my parents) a woman likes things that have thought behind them. Any idiot can by a piece of jewelry or a box of chocolates. But a truly caring husband will do something that will long be remembered.
 
Old 12-11-2004, 05:46 AM   #8
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As always, I am impressed by the answers given to a question posted at linuxquestions.org. Thank you everyone for your input. I haven't quite made the decision yet, but here are some responses to what you all posted:

Arsenomad said:
"An easy way to get a feel for this is to perhaps think of alternate ways that $260 could be used"

That's an easy one. Our house could use new windows and a roof. We've been talking about putting gas logs in the fireplace. I'm going to have a child in college in about 18 years, so I'd better start saving up now. There are lots of things that could be done with the money... Priority wise they're up there too...

JW Said:
I say be happy with your gift, and heck, maybe the two of you can make a New Year's resolution that in 2005, "We both agree only to spend X dollars on Christmas gifts next year. And we mean it!!"

Well, this happens every year. We usually set it at about $10 and then each spend $100. So I guess if I would have set it at $30 this year, then she's proportionally within the limit.

Zuggy Said:
You wouldn't believe how far a little creativity will go. In my expirience (and observing my parents) a woman likes things that have thought behind them. Any idiot can by a piece of jewelry or a box of chocolates. But a truly caring husband will do something that will long be remembered.

I could not agree with you more. It has been my experience that the gifts that I've spent the least $ and the most time thinking about have been the ones best received. This year, I've contacted our favorite potato chip maker, Ballreichs, to get a "gift set" of her favorite, extra dark chips. I've also put together a scrap book starter kit. In all, I've spent right about $30 and I am comfortable that she will love it.

My dilema is this:

Can I, as a responsible adult, justify accepting such an extravigant gift? Are any of you 2600 readers? If so, have any of you benefited in your career by something you read in 2600?

MrKnisely
 
Old 12-12-2004, 05:51 PM   #9
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If you were to pay the minimum amount to subscribe, but be a subscriber for the rest of your life, you would only save money in the short term - it's likely that you would spend far more over the years. Your wife looked at your interests and gauged that this would the sort of gift that "keeps on giving". Also, as a father myself, you will find that you adjust your spending unconciously to add in the extra family member. It's unlikely that, for a few years at least, your wife will have the money to spend. So, I would accept the gift in the spirit with which it was given, say thank you and be grateful it's not socks or handkerchiefs!

Oh, and enjoy your pc while you can - she probably sold it to pay for the subscription

Merry Christmas one and all
 
Old 12-12-2004, 07:40 PM   #10
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You asked again if you can accept such an extravagent gift - here's another way of looking at it: If you get paid every 2 weeks, you will get 26 paychecks in 2005. If the subscription costs $260/year, then over the course of the year you'd need to toss in $10 from each paycheck to cover the subscription. Conveniently, in a biweekly paycheck, there are exactly 10 working days. Thus, out of then entire pay you earn at work each day, you are allocating exactly $1 per day for the subscription.

If you look at it that way, each morning when you walk through your company's front door, you can just think to yourself that the very first dollar that you earn that day will be for your honey, to pay back the kindness that she has shown to you. That seems like a fair trade in my book.

While the cost of the subscription at first glance may look like a problem, I think you might be a far luckier man that you might realize. I'll say again to enjoy it and have an excellent 2005. -- J.W.
 
Old 12-13-2004, 07:18 PM   #11
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Hmmm.... As I continue to think about this, the ammount of the present isn't really the issue... it's more the worry of waste.

2600 is a fine publication, and I agree strongly with the free speach ideals. As I read back through the year of copies I have, I've bought them at the bookstore for a long time and been an annual subscriber for a few years, I see the publication as a diversion. Although, I continually hold out for some sort of tangible value.

Now, don't get me wrong...I value the enjoyment I get from 2600. It's just that the vast majority of my literary spending is for technical manuals. I'm still curious about any issue of 2600 that contained something of value to anyone's career.

I've made my decision. I'm keeping the gift and thanking God for belssing me with such a fantastic wife.

Thanks again to all your input!

MrKnisely

PS: XavierP, I'm posting to LQ using my wife's laptop... no worries about her selling that. If she did she would have to brave my office in the basement to browse Ebay.
 
Old 12-13-2004, 07:31 PM   #12
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Keep it.

I'm sure there are ways to get the $260 back. I work a side job to make extra money so we can do extra stuff.

It's nice to hear that your wife loves you. We (my wife and I) also just had our first child not too long ago. What a blessing that is. I wouldn't trad it for the world. I love my daughter more than life.

Merry Christmas
 
Old 12-15-2004, 04:20 PM   #13
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Posting from a female point of view...when she thought about and bought u the present your wife has obviously thought long and hard about the finances and decided that she loves u so much to want to please u with the gift , maybe u have had arguments and difficult times up until the birth of your child (congrats) and she wants to do something special for u now... accept in the manner it has been intended and love her for it :-)
 
Old 12-15-2004, 08:34 PM   #14
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When I was in college, I worked an entire summer changing oil to give my wife a nice engagement ring. A very nice engagement ring. Nearly a carat princess cut sitting inside a nice bunch of diamonds. She was ecstatic. So, after I got a job after college, I got her another. And another. A necklace or two. A few years ago she took me aside and explained very gently that really didn't care about jewelry, hence her lack of wearing it. Initially, I was mildly depressed. But then I realized, she had seen how much effort I put into her gift, and she made me feel great. At her expense. She was grateful for the thought behind it, not the actual gift. Be suprised, be happy, thank her for the enormous thought and consideration for it, then sit down with her and explain the realities of it, and your concerns. The other side of it, of course, is whether you buy the magazine each month. If you do, then you'll probably save that money in the next couple years over newsstand price.
 
  


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