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Old 06-19-2013, 09:03 PM   #16
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I'd think China would be watching you more closely than the CIA. You don't believe China is building massive supercomputers to make better noodles do you?
 
Old 06-20-2013, 12:18 AM   #17
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if i might add. yes, any and i do mean ANY encryption is breakable, but preventing access to data isn't really the end goal of encryption, as that task is essentially impossible

the second fact is that data has a 'shelf life', that is a length of time after which it becomes irrelevant that someone else knows it.

the real point of encryption is to keep data out of the wrong hands long enough for it's 'shelf life' to expire, then it doesn't matter if the encryption is broken or not since the data no longer needs to be kept secret anyways.
 
Old 06-20-2013, 02:18 AM   #18
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And I have forwarded all your questions to the NSA where they assure me that they will read them all and respond to them in person. At 4am.
I loved this tweet by @KimDotcom

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I had this @XBOX One dream: I sneezed while playing. Suddenly my mobile rang & someone whispered "Bless you". #NSA
 
Old 06-20-2013, 02:27 AM   #19
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We have a reply from Snowden himself:

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Encryption works. Properly implemented strong crypto systems are one of the few things that you can rely on. Unfortunately, endpoint security is so terrifically weak that NSA can frequently find ways around it.
Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...?commentpage=1
 
Old 06-20-2013, 08:50 AM   #20
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I recommend against using the elliptic curve encryption:
http://cyberwarzone.com/did-nsa-put-...ption-standard
The article in the links mentions a specific cipher which uses Elliptic Curve Cryptography (ECC). As far as I know, ECC is not unsafe in general (compared to the other main method, RSA). Indeed, ECC may even be more secure in the near future because we already do have quantum computer algorithms (see here) to break RSA, we just don't have the computers yet. Some primitive quantum computers have been constructed but they are more like proof-of-concept laboratory toys. This might of course change in a couple of decades.
 
Old 06-20-2013, 09:02 AM   #21
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I'll believe in quantum computing and quantum anything when I see it.

The problem with elliptic curve cryptography is that, as mentioned in the article, there is a slight bias, and there is a mathematical relationship between the constants employed in the standard such that a backdoor likely exists. Without the backdoor, it would be reasonably secure.
 
Old 06-20-2013, 10:10 AM   #22
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Indeed, ECC may even be more secure in the near future because we already do have quantum computer algorithms (see here) to break RSA
Quantum computers can break ECC as easily as RSA.

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The problem with elliptic curve cryptography is that, as mentioned in the article, there is a slight bias, and there is a mathematical relationship between the constants employed in the standard such that a backdoor likely exists. Without the backdoor, it would be reasonably secure.
As as I can tell from that article, the problem is specific to the random number generator (which uses a particular elliptic curve), not ECC in general.
 
Old 06-21-2013, 03:17 AM   #23
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yes , but it would not be worth the time and resources unless it was something like the Kennedy assassination -- or like
 
Old 06-21-2013, 09:40 AM   #24
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Right now, I think that you should assume that "everything" is being watched.

Only now that the public's attention is being confronted with the reality of it, is the public finally beginning to push back and to ask questions that needed to have been asked a decade ago. Sen. Udall recently observed that the most egregious program in question has not yet produced one useful intelligence result, and may never do so, for all the #CLASSIFIED# dollars that have been so-far spent on it. "A prudent use of public money?" I think not.
 
Old 06-22-2013, 11:22 AM   #25
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Old 08-02-2013, 03:34 AM   #26
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I loved this tweet by @KimDotcom
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Well, guess what:
Google Pressure Cookers and Backpacks: Get a Visit From the Feds
http://search.slashdot.org/story/13/...-from-the-feds
 
Old 08-02-2013, 05:09 AM   #27
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I still remember the hell the feds put Zimmerman through, which happened to be right after the failed 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center. He had projects like PGPhone in the works at the time too, as I recall He got paid off like Assange and his legal problems went away.

To answer the original question: given enough time and computing power, nothing is uncrackable.
 
Old 08-02-2013, 06:31 AM   #28
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Actually, a one-time pad, implemented and used correctly with true random data in uncrackable.

However, it can only be implemented correctly outside of a computer, i.e. a sketch pad with metal back plate and some dice. The cypher text can then be sent using any means at your disposal, including internet. The only problems left are keeping the pad secret and safe, and transmitting the data without arousing suspicion. Both can be solved with some cleverness.
 
Old 08-02-2013, 06:36 AM   #29
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We Chinese admire you so much for your democracy and freedom. We are suffering a lot from evil liar bureaucracy. But now it seems that American people are not a exception now (as least in some aspects). Politicians = Liars!
 
Old 08-02-2013, 06:47 AM   #30
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