with regards to python of c++, it really doesnt matter. python is really good stuff, and it might be the easiest way to implement something like this. i have some ideas that i want to discuss with you about what the application will _actually_ do. i figure there will be a few parts to the project, so itll take a while to get it done.

the sourceforge page still isnt up, but it should be up soon. hopefully the OP will post in here once its up. once thats up correspondence will be even easier.

my email should be in my profile for this site. if its not just make a post and ill put it up. microsoft/linux, i doubt this will require _that_ much experience, and either way its a good learning experience.

at this point, im thinking python might be best for this project. ill tell you why once we get more into corresponding and discuss what we want pkgswarm to really be.

Still waiting on a response! I will post when I do get it. Man I want to get this started so I can learn to program! Sounds fun.

nick, i dropped you an email. ms/lin and corbin, you guys may want to email him to or email me (dforsythe<at>gmail<dot>com) so that i can get your email addresses. anyone else interested in this project feel free to email me too.

Ha1f, I Sent you and email as well. Is there any news on the sf.net site?

the sf.net proposal is still under review. i sent you an email back looking for ideas.

Could we get it hosted on Google code to start off with, just to get the ball rolling? Base it on the Bittorrent 4.x python code so we don't reinvent the wheel so much?
From 4.4 onward I think, Bittorrent started needing a lot of extras to work, I'm guessing people would look for a light package manager?

Also, change the name to swarmp: SoftWare Automatically Revamped for Many People (I was bored :p)

we already have a sourceforge page. http://sourceforge.net/search/?type_...words=pkgswarm

check it out and email one of us if you want to get involved.

sawwwback: i got your message, but you blocked the email feature for your own account. email me at the address i posted in this thread. we appreciate the help :-)

Apologies about that, just emailed you :-)

the way i understand it each of the existing mirrors for a repo would act as both a tracker and a perminant seeder


mabie you could have seeding active whilever the pakage update daemon is running like PUP allways runs in the background in FC and zen in Suse

I don't have that much free time, but I could probably stand to do some less involved things like bug hunting, docs, and the SF website.

I would really like to see this as not an entirely new package manager, but just a layer on top of apt/yum/etc, maybe with a plugin architecture, as there will always be more package managers, and this would allow other people to write plugins for their own. This might mean a lot of initial work before anything usable is produced, seeing as everyone in this thread is on different distros/BSDs (I read your profile, Ha1f :) ), but people are going to be less wary of picking up a layer on top of their favourite package manager (with all it's features) than an entirely new PM that they might not consider as good, and more popular and well-known the project is, the more people will join in, and the more chance it will have of surviving. Writing a new package manager will also be a lot of work, you should be able to just stand on the shoulders of the existing ones, and if need be, this part can be written later anyway.

I really like the idea of this project and it has the potential to be something big, and I don't want to see it just die. A lot of projects haven't gone into the design phase enough, and just stagnate when the coder/s comes up against a brick wall. A lot of discussion and planning is still needed before anyone even thinks of writing code, so that will give people a chance to research everything involved (Python, daemons, bittorrent, package managers..). Python is a great first language, so you (us) coding newbs can help too.

Disclaimer: As you can read from my sig, I am an idiot. You guys probably know a lot more than me about all this stuff.

<note to everyone else who reads this thread>

If you want to help out, or want to know more about the project, please feel free to email me or anyone else on the project, or join the mailing list. At this point, we only need a few python programmers, but if you join the mailing list, youll be able to help out with docs and bug hunting.

There is no SF.net mailing list, did you guys start one and forget you didn't mention it in the thread?

Ha1f meant this one I think:
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/...kgswarm-develp

And the plot thickens...
:D