Because Shiny Things Are Fun - The New New Windows v Linux Thread

*yawn*

Originally Posted by Jeebizz *yawn*

Jeebizz can you get me a Coca-Cola?

[I'm joking.]

Edit: For a valuable contribution to the thread;

MagicJack is developing for the Linux platform now.

*Throws leopard a Coke*

Well as far as Windows is concerned, I don't think I will ever be free of it, mainly because of the wife and what she uses:

• Chinese Simplified input (Wubi)
• PPStream
• QQ

I know I can get SCIM for Chinese Simplified under Linux, however there are more than one method, and like I said she prefers the Wubi-Method, that probably can be solved the easiest though.

Not sure about QQ && PPStream

Originally Posted by Jeebizz *yawn*

Yawn why?

*cough*, uh, nothing.

LOL!!! Kenny, that made me laugh.

1. Schools use Windows because it is what you use out in the Real-World at 90% of jobs. Plus, it is something that a lot of schools trust and there's a lot of software that are needed (Powerpoint for instance) that makes the teacher's job a lot easier.

2. Microsoft does not have access to my files, else they'd have a lawsuit on their hands. We have the Bill of Rights protecting us.

3. This one I do understand, yet I don't believe is 100% accurate. Because of the requirements of Windows, obviously vendors have to create a better system to make your computer faster and better all around. And as for Microsoft telling vendors what to put into other PCs that don't use Windows? That's touchy. But like I said, not 100% accurate.

4. Well, duh. It's called growing technology. And Office 2010 still supports Windows XP thank you. They're not wasting their money on people who don't feel the need to upgrade. If they've been supporting you for 5+ years why continue when something better is out? That's called Common Sense.

5. Um, Microsoft Office 2007 and 2010 both open odf files.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l....aspx#section2

6. That's not Windows trying to lock down, that's other people. Apple does this with their iTunes store. And it even states, at the REQUEST of NBC. If not, then NBC could sue for giving people access to steal which some users would be.

7. People like a challenge!! I myself have written 3 viruses for Windows. It's kind of fun trying to find vulnerabilities and exploit them. With open-source, it's not a challenge cause I can just look at the source and trust me, there are A LOT of vulnerabilities in Linux. It's just its not as much of a challenge.

So yea, all those "sins" can be broken down and explained.

Lol at you 2.

I am very happy with MANDRIVA 2010 (WHICH I BURNT IN OCTOBER'S END 2010)!Suppose i download a new .iso today, will the new one be an improvement over the previous[10/31/10]one? I have decided that as long as i have a DUAL-BOOT which contains win.,i will never fully commit myself to MANDRIVA!Your opinions and thoughts please!

Warm Regards,
vyver.

PS: A slow typer is always left lurching behind, especially on such a HOT thread like this!Count me in!

Originally Posted by vyver I am very happy with Mandriva 2010 (which I installed in October)! Suppose I download an updated version today, will the new one be an improvement over the previous installation? I have decided that as long as I have a dual-boot which contains Windows, I will never fully commit myself to Mandriva! Your opinions and thoughts please! Warm Regards, vyver PS: A slow typist is always left lurching behind, especially on such an active thread like this! Count me in!

Ugh, the red hurt my eyes. This isn't the right place for this question. You should make your own thread. Also, all-caps for the distributions' name is unnecessary, and the term 'burning in' doesn't make much sense. Sorry for being critical, but it's the truth.

Replying to your question -- you probably don't need too. I'm not familiar with Mandriva, so perhaps someone more experienced with it can reply. But, most distributions will update easily, even from much older versions.

EDIT: I assume English is not your native language. I have edited your post to make it more proper. I'm far from perfect myself, just some friendly criticisms!

Ugh, the red hurt my eyes

Sorry if this is a little OT, but...you can change that if you're on FF.

Originally Posted by leopard MagicJack is developing for the Linux platform now.

They've been saying that for a couple of years now...

Originally Posted by mudangel They've been saying that for a couple of years now...

Yeah, but look at their FAQ now. It never said that before.

Originally Posted by soppy there are A LOT of vulnerabilities in Linux. It's just its not as much of a challenge.

I am curious about this. If their are that many vulnerabilities what are they (I don't mean list every single one. Something maybe generalized.) and why wouldn't those who are dead against Linux take advantage of this just to show Linux is weaker then Windows or at least as weak as Windows? Or use that to show that what people are saying that Linux is more secure then Windows is just a lie?

Also who else has comments/thoughts on this?

Please, I pointed this out because I really want to hear thoughts and experiences. Not for it to turn into any kind of shouting match, etc.

Originally Posted by Amdx2_x64 I am curious about this. If their are that many vulnerabilities what are they (I don't mean list every single one. Something maybe generalized.) and why wouldn't those who are dead against Linux take advantage of this just to show Linux is weaker then Windows or at least as weak as Windows? Or use that to show that what people are saying that Linux is more secure then Windows is just a lie? Also who else has comments/thoughts on this? Please, I pointed this out because I really want to hear thoughts and experiences. Not for it to turn into any kind of shouting match, etc.

I think many of the vulnerabilities in Linux are of a different nature from those in Windows. I can't give you any concrete numbers (and I may very well be wrong), but from my personal experience when reading security reports is that Windows has many more remote exploit vulnerabilities, while Linux's exploits ususally require physical access to the machine.

Check out sites like Secunia for more detailed info.

Originally Posted by Amdx2_x64 I am curious about this. If their are that many vulnerabilities what are they (I don't mean list every single one. Something maybe generalized.) and why wouldn't those who are dead against Linux take advantage of this just to show Linux is weaker then Windows or at least as weak as Windows? Or use that to show that what people are saying that Linux is more secure then Windows is just a lie? Also who else has comments/thoughts on this? Please, I pointed this out because I really want to hear thoughts and experiences. Not for it to turn into any kind of shouting match, etc.

I think over all I've found about 5-10 nasty bugs in Linux that has given me root privileges. I've also found some that have given memory leaks in software (especially in wine). The reason why none of this is as big as Windows though is because it gets patched almost instantly. I myself have submitted probably 40+ patches to certain projects (technically to like 6 different projects, over half of those are to Wine. xD) in order to make them more secure and not have memory leaks and bugs. And there are THOUSANDS of people who do the same. That is the beauty of open source. These bugs may be HUGE one day, then you boot up any *buntu, Fedora or even Arch the next day and it says "Updates are available" and BAM!!! It's fixed. There are lesser known bugs in Linux that do give a normal user root privileges even in programs like gksudo (not saying how for security reasons) and even in the newest Gnome-Panel (again, my findings will not be shared with the public till either I or someone else patches it).

Some nasty bugs do exist, but there's really no WAY to exploit them because 90% of the population will have it fixed the next day so why even try? Hopefully I've cleared some things up for you!

Originally Posted by jiml8 I see no reason why DDR3 1600 shouldn't be used in that kind of system.

I can only tell you what we have experienced. If it works for you, OK, but that doesn't have to mean that it will work for other mainboards and different RAMs.