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Old 03-05-2011, 03:49 AM   #811
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Now compiling from source might be another matter- I haven't a clue- but when and if the occasion arises and there is no alternative, I'm sure I can learn....
That is what Gentoo does. I just updated KDE to 4.6.1. It compiles everything from source. It does it with a package manager but the compile process is neat to watch as it goes by.

I started with Mandrake 9. The install was quite easy. I think it is easier than windows myself. It is also done in a GUI. Another thing I like, when it is done installing, it's not just the OS, it's all the software too. After the install is done, you boot from the hard drive and everything is there. For me at least, all my hardware worked and was configured.

After a while, I switched to Gentoo. I have used it ever since and certainly would not think of using windows. Yea, Gentoo is a command line OS. It does have a GUI option tho. I think it is called porthole. Maybe they were on a ship when that name came up. lol

 
Old 03-05-2011, 02:11 PM   #812
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Yeah, really- as long as I have a GUI to work with, I am fine.

I've known about Linux since I started computing in '99.....but knew I was not up to the challenges that using Linux entailed in those days. Then a few years ago, I noticed that Ubuntu had come on the scene and was purporting to be very user-friendly..... Then last year, I saw that Ubuntu (and many other distos) had "arrived"- and now have GUI's that can compete with Windows (plus the CLI, that one can learn to use...knowing the GUI is always there when all else fails)...so I gave it a try- and did find it easier to use than Windows (and yet it works much better than Windows)- and I've never looked back.
 
Old 03-05-2011, 03:40 PM   #813
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plus the CLI, that one can learn to use...knowing the GUI is always there when all else fails
I tend to think of it the other way around: the CLI is my savior when all else fails.

But, to each their own.
 
Old 03-05-2011, 03:57 PM   #814
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I tend to think of it the other way around: the CLI is my savior when all else fails.
That's the way it is for me, too.

While the GUI can be unreliable, the CLI is always there unless things are messed up so bad that you can't even boot.
 
Old 03-05-2011, 04:02 PM   #815
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I tend to think of it the other way around: the CLI is my savior when all else fails.

But, to each their own.
Trouble is, since I came to Linux after the introduction of the GUI, and I'm too lazy to learn much CLI, since I can function with the GUI.....I'm pretty much stuck in GUI-land or in "Google and copy/paste command" land.
 
Old 03-05-2011, 04:24 PM   #816
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windows is awesome because though for linux users it's good to have the command line at a few clicks or a "ctrl-alt-f1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9" gets them to a simple cli, in windows a user doesn't need that because their system does not break so often.

how many times has windows updates messed up my system ? 0
and ubuntu updates? 29+

lol man one time i even was left with no OS and possibility to fix nothing ( i gave the usb thumb drive to a friend so he could check out my multiboot usb) and i was left with a grub-rescue error after a kernel update.
really, now everytime i see ubuntu updates i cancel them all.

but windows updates makes the comp slower.......
 
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All OS's sucks!!! PERIOD!!!
 
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now everytime i see ubuntu updates i cancel them all.
You never update ubuntu?
 
Old 03-05-2011, 04:57 PM   #819
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All OS's sucks!!!
Reminds me of that song from Three Dead Trolls In a Baggie - Every OS Sucks (Director's cut video). Dang, can't believe its been 10 years since that song was written though.
 
Old 03-05-2011, 05:08 PM   #820
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Trouble is, since I came to Linux after the introduction of the GUI, and I'm too lazy to learn much CLI, since I can function with the GUI
I started with Ubuntu myself, then "graduated" to Arch, and I just loves the flexibility/transparency of the CLI...sometimes I wonder if I've even scratched the surface of what I can do.

Now granted, that's just an opinion, but I think something can be said for being able to edit config files yourself (assuming you have the know-how), possibly toggling/changing options that you normally wouldn't be able to from the GUI.
 
Old 03-05-2011, 05:38 PM   #821
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Reminds me of that song from Three Dead Trolls In a Baggie - Every OS Sucks (Director's cut video). Dang, can't believe its been 10 years since that song was written though.
The singer is right about one thing. All OS's sucks. But I still like linux more even if it sucks like windows and macs. hehehe
 
Old 03-05-2011, 05:40 PM   #822
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You never update ubuntu?
no doubt ! i just test out new versions and replace the old one i have
 
Old 03-05-2011, 11:28 PM   #823
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here goes the video i promissed to you ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbud3CVr6d8

meh quality kinda sucks. but be happy you actually get to see the video :P
 
Old 03-06-2011, 12:58 PM   #824
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here goes the video i promissed to you ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbud3CVr6d8

meh quality kinda sucks. but be happy you actually get to see the video :P
Wait a minute....... Running Ubuntu in a virtual machine under Windows? Isn't it then limited by the host OS?

And to be really fair- if XP is going to be the Windows benchmark, wouldn't it be fairer to use an older version of Ubuntu? Naturally, the latest version is going to be more bloated- having more complexfeatures and being compatible with more sophisticated hardware.

Comparing a 10 year old OS to a brand new OS is absurd! And in a virtual machine no less.....
 
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I agree. It needs to be Windows 7 (not XP) and on real hardware. VirtualBox has different modes for different OSes, so it might be optimized better for XP than Ubuntu.

And what's the point of playing around with the OSes before doing the comparison? I just got bored and quit watching, I knew you said XP is going to be faster.

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