Because Shiny Things Are Fun - The New New Windows v Linux Thread

Originally Posted by TobiSGD You don't need to buy it, Microsoft offers a 90-day evaluation of Windows 7 Enterprise.

I'll rather die!

Did you guys even see my blog description? I was actually part of M$'s beta test program for 7! It was terrible, especially in those times. And Vi$ta was no better. Constant malware (backdoors that would disable Kaspersky and cause my Internet to be SLOOOW) and, especially in Vi$ta, doing anything in Windoze Media Center related to watching or recording TV caused constant hangs and BSODs. Proof of just how insane M$ is.

Originally Posted by Kenny_Strawn Did you guys even see my blog description? I was actually part of M$'s beta test program for 7! It was terrible, especially in those times. And Vi$ta was no better. Constant malware (backdoors that would disable Kaspersky and cause my Internet to be SLOOOW) and, especially in Vi$ta, doing anything in Windoze Media Center related to watching or recording TV caused constant hangs and BSODs. Proof of just how insane M$ is.

So you were a beta-tester. What did you expect other than bugs and other issues?
I ran Windows many years (95, 98, 2000, XP, Vista), before I my total change to Linux, and OK, sometimes there were crashes (especially with 95 and 98), or a virus, but in no way constantly. But I wasn't part of a beta-test, where I would expect that. In my eyes no proof for anyones insanity.
But I am glad that this times are gone.

Yes, and even in the RC (which is supposed to be more stable) there was *PLENTY* of crap related to IIS and the fact that every time I ran it (along with Remote Desktop Web) it would get infected with some sort of back door that would disable any antivirus program I had installed...

And I even had the Professional version of the final release in VirtualBox for a while and even then Aero wouldn't work ... at all.

That said, the version of Vi$ta I had on my computer was the final release ... and in that release I couldn't run Media Center other than the main menu without experiencing a hang or BSOD...

Originally Posted by dv502 I'll rather die!

Agreed, or should I say, aGreed ... the "greed" part being a deadly sin that M$ commits. $teve Ba££mer is a malicious, market-barrier-setting robber-baron who cares about no one else but him$elf.

Originally Posted by sycamorex I don't trust those linux fanboys claiming that windows is crap. Yesterday I was in my office working on Windows XP for 8 hours and it didn't crash!!!

Yeah 8 hours work ...15 minute coffee break while windoze starts up,3 hours defragging ,2 hours running Ccleaner on the registry, 2 hours with AV,10 minutes writing a document 30 minutes saving said document, along with 5 minutes shutting down the system that sound about right?

Originally Posted by tiredofbilkyyaforallican Yeah 8 hours work ...15 minute coffee break while windoze starts up,3 hours defragging ,2 hours running Ccleaner on the registry, 2 hours with AV,10 minutes writing a document 30 minutes saving said document, along with 5 minutes shutting down the system that sound about right?

it looks like the whole working hours are spent in maintaining the Windows box.we have Windows in our computer laboratory and maintaining it don't need those long hours.

but in my home, i only use slackware.after spending many hours climbing the learning curve,it becomes easier for me to maintain and use my box than our Windows box in school.

Originally Posted by Kenny_Strawn Agreed, or should I say, aGreed ... the "greed" part being a deadly sin that M$ commits. $teve Ba££mer is a malicious, market-barrier-setting robber-baron who cares about no one else but him$elf.

Originally Posted by MrCode

I agree with MrCode.

I'd like to throw in a () and a () in there as well.

Originally Posted by brianL Cygwin has rsync. http://www.cygwin.com/packages/

Thanks. That might be even better.

Originally Posted by Kenny_Strawn Windoze Media Center

If there's one piece of software I really hate, it's Windows Media Center.

When I used Windows 7 RC, I had a TV tuner card connected to a sattelite box in a room far away. Basically what I needed is to tune the card to channel 3 or 4 depending on the setting of the switch on the sattelite box and that's it. To change te channels, I just wanted to use the remote from the sattelite box.

So I started Windows Media Center. It had no option just to tune in and watch TV. So I went to the setup screen, and chose the "sattelite" option. It requires me to have an IR interface to the sattelite box, whether you want it or not. So I chose the "cable" option. It forced me to choose a cable provider, want it or not. So I then chose the local TV option. It scanned for channels, which took 5-10 minutes, THEN ASKED ME IF I WANTED TO CHOOSE CHANELS MANUALLY INSTEAD!!! Then it forced me to download a guide of what's on local channels, want it or not. I tried doing it a few times to see if I can bypass the guide, but I cant. And each time I had to wait for it to scan for channels just to ask me if I wanted to just choose the channels myself. Finally I gave in and downloaded the freaking guide and I could finally just wtch TV.

I can't imagine a more idiotic, poorly designed piece of software.

Originally Posted by MTK358 If there's one piece of software I really hate, it's Windows Media Center. When I used Windows 7 RC, I had a TV tuner card connected to a sattelite box in a room far away. Basically what I needed is to tune the card to channel 3 or 4 depending on the setting of the switch on the sattelite box and that's it. To change te channels, I just wanted to use the remote from the sattelite box. So I started Windows Media Center. It had no option just to tune in and watch TV. So I went to the setup screen, and chose the "satellite" option. It requires me to have an IR interface to the satellite box, whether you want it or not. So I chose the "cable" option. It forced me to choose a cable provider, want it or not. So I then chose the local TV option. It scanned for channels, which took 5-10 minutes, THEN ASKED ME IF I WANTED TO CHOOSE CHANNELS MANUALLY INSTEAD!!! Then it forced me to download a guide of what's on local channels, want it or not. I tried doing it a few times to see if I can bypass the guide, but I cant. And each time I had to wait for it to scan for channels just to ask me if I wanted to just choose the channels myself. Finally I gave in and downloaded the freaking guide and I could finally just watch TV. I can't imagine a more idiotic, poorly designed piece of software.

I agree. I had many of those same problems (tried connecting the computer to a DirecTV box and it still forced me to use an IR cable, so I had to use local channels which don't include anything I like) and therefore felt like barfing on the computer. It was a nightmare! Exactly why I have Linux: The one thing that really attracted me was MythTV.

Originally Posted by MrCode

Okay, just what is that about? It seems as though you disagree with me, is that correct? If so, why? I don't get this.

Originally Posted by leopard I agree with MrCode. I'd like to throw in a () and a () in there as well.

For the love of God, why are you laughing at M$'s evil empire? Just laughing at me calling them M$ is enough to get me concerned. Add to that the constant dissing of me when I use currency signs for similar letters in things I (and also all of you guys) find evil and you get the ultimate question: Linux users should treat other Linux users with respect (since there is only so many of us in the U$A and the rest of the world), so why aren't you guys? LQ is increasingly becoming like UF.

Originally Posted by Kenny_Strawn Okay, just what is that about? It seems as though you disagree with me, is that correct? If so, why? I don't get this.

Because you're so radical. It's becoming annoying and sad and I'm beginning to think you're here to troll us and make us look bad. After everything we've said and a thread closure, you are still spewing hate and non-sense of epic proportions, and people are getting tired of it. I may unsubscribe form this thread just because of this.

Can I PLEASE, please just ask you to be sensible? Instead of spamming currency signs, can you just say you don't like their business practices and get it over with? Must you comment on everything bad about Microsoft? Must you call everyone names? You called us Linux users fake, spread malicious software, call everyone who even LIKES Microsoft a TEENY bit rude names and childishly compare Microsoft and it's CEO to things like Adolf Hitler who killed and gassed and did horrible things to so many people.

I want to have a friendly debate, but I can't do it that way.

Cut the crap, come back to Earth and let's be friends. You CAN be a pretty interesting person to talk too...

Not trying to be rude, just saying what I feel; I don't want poor XavierP to have to come and close this one too.