Because Shiny Things Are Fun - The New New Windows v Linux Thread

Back on topic, Windows has almost certainly become a means for Microsoft just to scrape in big bucks and then become completely greedy with it. Sure, you can argue that Bill Gates gives back, but he doesn't run Microsoft anymore, does he?

Squeeze is aimed to be released the weekend of 5th/6th of February.

Originally Posted by Kenny_Strawn ￦i₦₫¤￦$

Oh, come on, wasn't there something that you matured and do things like that only as a last resort?

By the way, Bill Gates was "only" Chief Software Architect, so actually he never has run Microsoft.

Originally Posted by TobiSGD Oh, come on, wasn't there something that you matured and do things like that only as a last resort? By the way, Bill Gates was "only" Chief Software Architect, so actually he never has run Microsoft.

Right, post edited.

Originally Posted by Kenny_Strawn And let's hope Windoze *NEVER* gets backed by anybody (like it did by @mattvdh) in this thread as much as it was backed by people in the old thread. And fellow Linux users: Let's not feed those trolls who do! Just ignore them and pretend they didn't exist.

Hahaha... I guess that's one way to boost your ego. lol

I've "done my time" with 12 years of manual configuration, troubleshooting and tweaking with MS-DOS and early versions of Windows before Win95 was finally released. At last, I could use my PC without all that hassle. I've also spent 4 years working with Linux, and all I can think is, why would people subject themselves to all this, AND with less intelligible commands than DOS?? Yeah, I know- some people don't understand why a 50 something year old would play with toy trains, but at least I don't compare my HOBBY with rocket science or deny the naysayers their opinions for the purpose of justification. Your moderator said it right when he started this thread: Shiny Things Are Fun.

Originally Posted by Barney Rubble I've also spent 4 years working with Linux, and all I can think is, why would people subject themselves to all this, AND with less intelligible commands than DOS??

LOL, you mean you can't understand why people work with an OS with commands you are not able to understand? That is a good one, for me quantum physics is not really intelligible, does that mean that no one should do quantum physics?

I see, this is your first post, so I assume you are another person that only registered at LQ to troll around. Have fun with that, especially if you do it in a way that is actually showing that your mind can't cope with Linux.

Originally Posted by TobiSGD LOL, you mean you can't understand why people work with an OS with commands you are not able to understand? That is a good one, for me quantum physics is not really intelligible, does that mean that no one should do quantum physics?

Funny, too, how you always attack the intelligence of Windows users. I consider myself the more intelligent one for using something that works. It compares to a shade-tree mechanic that has to work on his beater to get it started each time rather than buying a vehicle that a real mechanic can fix right.

Originally Posted by TobiSGD I see, this is your first post, so I assume you are another person that only registered at LQ to troll around. Have fun with that, especially if you do it in a way that is actually showing that your mind can't cope with Linux.

Not to worry, I don't have the time. Just wanted to put in my two cents on Kenny_Strawn's first post. Have fun with your tinker-toy OS... I have too much real work to do.

I have too much real work to do.

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Originally Posted by Barney Rubble I consider myself the more intelligent one for using something that works.

Another LOL on that. More I should not say to that statement. But I do: Try a standard install of Slackware, RHEL or Debian, and show to me what is working less than in a standard install of Windows.

Funny, too, how you always attack the intelligence of Windows users.

I am interested in that: When did you see me attacking the intelligence of Windows users? I did not want to attack the intelligence of the Windows users (there are quite intelligent ones), and AFAIK I have never done it. If you look through this thread and its predecessor, I almost always defended those people that want to use Windows instead of Linux. At least if they have given it a fair try and simply say "Linux isn't for me, I better use Windows.", without trolling around.
To come to an end with this, it was you that posted that he can't cope with the commands used in Linux. How intelligent is it to judge an OS when you are not even able to understand its commands?

But I better stop to feed the troll.

Originally Posted by Barney Rubble Have fun with your tinker-toy OS... I have too much real work to do.

What work is that...?

Scanning for viruses and malware.

Folks intelligence ain't judge by the OS they use, in fact those folks who can use more than one OS makes them even smarter.

Originally Posted by Barney Rubble I've also spent 4 years working with Linux, and all I can think is, why would people subject themselves to all this, AND with less intelligible commands than DOS??

That's interesting; last I checked nano, vim, apt-get (or other package managers), wpa_supplicant, iwconfig, screen, and CLI web browsers showed the Linux CLI's strengths over a dumbed-down DOS command line that does nothing more than file management and dial-up Internet...

And just what makes you think that Linux is hard to use? It may have been back in the 1990's, but now it almost *certainly* has become easy to use and install.

Case in point: There's no such thing as a Windows "Live CD" unless you obtain a pirated copy. Linux (especially easy-to-use distros like Ubuntu and Linux Mint) has Live CD's by default, which means that system recovery has never been more powerful. It is in fact perfect for checking if your hardware works *BEFORE* you actually install!

Originally Posted by Barney Rubble Not to worry, I don't have the time. Just wanted to put in my two cents on Kenny_Strawn's first post. Have fun with your tinker-toy OS... I have too much real work to do.

Tinker toy OS, eh? Well then what do you call Windows? A totalitarian (and Nazist) OS that is there to tell YOU what to do (and what not to do) with YOUR computer? A vulnerable OS that needs thousands of third-party apps just to not get a virus? A slow and cumbersome OS that runs so many services in the background that merely recording or even watching live TV requires a DX11 graphics card? To me, none of these things are good.

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Originally Posted by Kenny_Strawn Case in point: There's no such thing as a Windows "Live CD" unless you obtain a pirated copy.

Wrong. It is called WindowsPE, and you can even make it yourself, if you have a working Vista/7.

But anyways, let him troll around, I think we know better.

Originally Posted by Kenny_Strawn Back on topic, Windows has almost certainly become a means for Microsoft just to scrape in big bucks and then become completely greedy with it. Sure, you can argue that Bill Gates gives back, but he doesn't run Microsoft anymore, does he?

Of course it's a means to "scrape in big bucks"- Microsoft is a corporation, Windows is one of their products, and that's what businesses do, they make money with their products. Also, Microsoft's alleged greed is irrelevant, as the purpose of businesses is to provide a product and profit from it- not provide some kind of moral example or role model.