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Old 02-02-2013, 05:42 AM   #1681
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But 8 has those cool, thin, coloured keyboards associated with it! And all kinds of other crap they copy as a monopoly until Linux change\d\ing that. Thank "God"!

P.s: i do not like 8s windows, my sister who only uses fb and u-tub (mostly) dose. She still always wants me to set her up dual boot for the free games in Linux tho...and winds up with a virus in windows at least once a year!

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Old 02-02-2013, 04:27 PM   #1682
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Yes, XP was released 2001, roughly at the same time as Suse 7.3 and Red Hat 7.1.



So you actually have no real experience how to correctly setup a modern version of Windows and have never used it for more than a few hours, but feel entitled to have an opinion about it and its quality?


So I may assume that you have not tried it and your opinion about Windows 8 is based on hearsay instead of experience?

I don't think that I have to say more about that.
Personally I don't give a rats ass about you or your opinion. Why would I want to work with some piece of shit operating system that cannot handle even the most mundane operations without going into a tizzy ? or turning into the BSOD. As for 8 what the fcuk is M$ trying to compete with? my granddaughter's Leap pad? and remember that assume means "if you assume something it only makes an ass of u & me. By the way Toby I never asked whether you approved of what I type on this forum and if you believe I should, you have 2 clues; One's lost and the other's out looking for it!

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Old 02-02-2013, 06:29 PM   #1683
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My experiences today

Lot's of Uptight members here. I guess I can see why. I just upgraded avast is Windows 2000 Pro sp4.
Then found Firefox 18 won't run on anything older than XPsp2.
Then Belkin Wireless Driver Utility threw a error at me after a reboot and said windows had to close it.
Said it wrote a error file but damn if it would tell me where, Just the dummy windows mysterious thing about shutting down, then a OK button
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Installed New Kmelon browser to make up for Firefox Issue. Opera 2X whatever don't wanna place nice
with Windows 2000 pro sp4 either as far as upgrade and new download and install goes. No message there.
Just dll errors.

Started getting uptight myself. So I said screw it and booted up Puppy Linux to check if maybe my isp router
was to blame for the Belkin error. Posting about it now in Debian Here.

So I can see how using Windows can get some ones panties in a wad and make them into cranky old farts.

No, Out here in the desert we don't get the latest and greatest gear to run Windows 8 or
whatever. So I can't comment on that. I have to work with what is around.
 
Old 02-03-2013, 02:42 PM   #1684
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Personally I don't give a rats ass about you or your opinion. Why would I want to work with some piece of shit operating system that cannot handle even the most mundane operations without going into a tizzy ? or turning into the BSOD. As for 8 what the fcuk is M$ trying to compete with? my granddaughter's Leap pad? and remember that assume means "if you assume something it only makes an ass of u & me. By the way Toby I never asked whether you approved of what I type on this forum and if you believe I should, you have 2 clues; One's lost and the other's out looking for it!
If you post something on a forum you have to tolerate that what you post will be looked at critically. If you can't stand that then don't post. What you posted here does nothing but to confirm what I assumed before: You have no clue what you are talking about when you talk about Windows.
 
Old 02-04-2013, 06:50 AM   #1685
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If you post something on a forum you have to tolerate that what you post will be looked at critically. If you can't stand that then don't post. What you posted here does nothing but to confirm what I assumed before: You have no clue what you are talking about when you talk about Windows.
Well speaking of looking at things critcally, here is some for your point. I have NEVER bought anything M$, NEVER. I have NEVER had anything M$ installed on any of my systems, NONE. Does that mean I have not worked with windoze? No, it does not. My brother used XP for YEARS. I got to screw with that crap for a VERY long time. I finally got him switched to Linux. Things are much better even tho the rig is really old now.

I have neices and other family and friends that have newer versions of windoze, vista and such as that. So, I have seen plenty of windoze OS's and have more experience than I want with them. Do you not think that tiredofbilkyyaforallican could have got his impressions of windoze in a similar way? Just because someone doesn't post a book about every single experience they have with windoze does not mean they don't have any. I'm not going to post every version of wondoze I have had to deal with or every time I have had to fix them for the simple fact, I don't keep notes of every time I deal with windoze.

So, for you to claim that someone is basically ignorant when you don't know their experiences requires me to do some serious critical thinking on your position and your posts. In my opinion, you just want to stir up some negativity and make someone else feel stupid even if they are not. Maybe to make yourself feel smarter. I don't know.

How's that for looking at things critically?

P. S. The experience I have working with windoze posted above is NOT all of it. I also worked for a fortune 500 computer company in computer service for several years. I still think M$ is worthless just like tiredofbilkyyaforallican does.
 
Old 02-04-2013, 10:30 AM   #1686
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I would like to add that members here who like using windows need to realize that this is still a linux forum and they have to expect things like this from over zealous members. The same happens everywhere even in windows based forums where linux is trash talked as well. It is what it is...
 
Old 02-04-2013, 12:12 PM   #1687
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I would like to add that members here who like using windows need to realize that this is still a linux forum and they have to expect things like this from over zealous members. The same happens everywhere even in windows based forums where linux is trash talked as well. It is what it is...
Indeed, but even in light of this, I think that TobiSGD makes a valid point, and tiredofbilkyyaforallican is way out of line, especially in his response to TobiSGD.

Trash talk is one thing, but nakedly uninformed trash talk parading as something else is another.

tiredofbilkyyaforallican opens up by declaring that he has "not used windows in this house for nearly 5 years." Then, he goes on to deride Windows as "virus-ridden," etc.

All TobiSGD did was point out the logical inconsistency in this, and tiredofbilkyyaforallican's response was quite rude, I think.

Having passing encounters with Windows on other people's machines, I would argue, is not a very strong position for evaluation of the OS as a whole, especially if these encounters are in the context of people coming to you with problems that they are having. If my only encounters with Red Hat, for example, were people coming to me with yum dependency issues, I might form a lop-sided opinion about RHEL. I'd be incorrect and sadly ignorant if I were to then disparage their package management in public fora based on this.

The thing is, even with Windows, most problems that people have with operating systems arise from something that they, the user (and, in the case of personal systems, administrator) have done that they really shouldn't have. To really know what's going on enough to evaluate an OS, one should install and manage it, not just pop in on a running system. Any OS can be reduced to a clusterf*ck of hard times when adequately mismanaged by an unskilled administrator.

Please not that I'm not defending Windows by any means; I'm generally not a fan. I just concur with TobiSGD that even flame war rants can benefit from some actual knowledge and experience. Otherwise, a poster is just wasting everyone's time.
 
Old 02-04-2013, 03:36 PM   #1688
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In my opinion Windows 8 is awful! That 'start menu' fills up the whole screen. Also, it would seem that it was originally built for cell phones, but Microsoft needed money so they threw a couple of changes in and put it on laptops and desktops. I think that 7 is the best OS that Microsoft has ever made. I have it on one laptop and on my desktop PC. It seems like a good stable powerful OS. However, I would use Ubuntu any day if I didn't need to run programs that use only Windows or MAC. I run a whole slew of Windows Machines off of my Windows 7 laptop so that I can still use linux on it.
 
Old 02-04-2013, 04:04 PM   #1689
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Coal, gas and win7 are ok (and with a corporate\* gun to our heads) but i did not get a disk, not that i would want it, wiped all but the reinstall partition alongside, now: Ubuntu and CrunchBang; bliss! +i charge my laptop\Linux with the sun☼

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Old 02-06-2013, 04:43 AM   #1690
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I want to apologize for my behavior in this thread and especially the insults towards tiredofbilkyyaforallican.
My behavior was unacceptable, damaging to LinuxQuestions.org and casting a damning light on the moderators team.

This will not happen again.
 
Old 02-09-2013, 12:38 PM   #1691
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I don't like Ubuntu, but if Ubuntu helps draw Windows users to Linux, I'll tolerate it. Ubuntu is the methadone to Windows's heroin.
 
Old 02-09-2013, 02:59 PM   #1692
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Old 02-13-2013, 11:51 AM   #1693
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Grew up on Windows. I think the Windows 2000 Server OS the best and most stable ever, if configured and not monkeyed around with.
Grew up on Windows. I respect them for getting systems out of labs and into almost every home.
Grew up on Windows, which is why I love and respect Linux and the spirit of open source more and more every day.
I respect my Linux system because it respects my freedom to decide what is good for me and what is not.
I respect Linux because it gives me freedom from kissing ass.
I repect Linux because it allows me to be me, and remains the same ol Linux.
I found me in Linux and some Linux in me.

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Old 02-15-2013, 01:08 AM   #1694
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I want to apologize for my behavior in this thread and especially the insults towards tiredofbilkyyaforallican.
My behavior was unacceptable, damaging to LinuxQuestions.org and casting a damning light on the moderators team.

This will not happen again.
 
Old 03-27-2013, 10:18 PM   #1695
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Windows vs Linux from my own perspective:

My three WinXP boxes do crash every now and then, but it's usually application crashes rather than the OS itself, and my two Win7 boxes each crash about once per week, usually OS related rather than application related. None of the dozen Linux boxes that I'm currently maintaining ever crash, although there have been a time or two that an application will hang or act up a bit and need a little tweaking, or reconfiguring.

I wouldn't use Windows at all if it weren't a requirement for some of my work, and I do find Linux far easier to use on a day to day basis. In fact, I don't enjoy working within Windows or troubleshooting it at all.

On the other hand, I'm glad Windows continues to remain available for those that need it, or anyone that doesn't know better and thinks they need it. Hopefully, those users will eventually get past such restrictions.
 
  


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