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baldy3105 09-25-2009 04:02 PM

I trust you realise that tcp/ip that underpins the internet was originally developed by DARPA as a meshed communications system that nuclear bombs could knock holes in without actually stopping the whole from working. So blowing it up wold be quite a challenge actually.

tpreitzel 02-05-2010 10:18 PM

Back To The Past
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GazL (Post 3694287)
Fidonet!
Bring back FOSSIL drivers, frontdoors, echomail tossers and zone mail hour!

Simples! ;)

OK, folks. With Microsoft essentially promoting "Internet Driver Licenses" for the internet, I see where this dog is headed and I don't like the master.

Hence, I'm preparing NOW to mitigate my exposure to the internet. I fully realize that as long as governments have control over the electromagnetic spectrum and carriers' access to it, we're all subject to control and monitoring, but I want to minimize the problem. So, within a week I'll be on a PSTN. I have an older analog/digital modem (56k) which I intend to use to setup a Fido node. At this point, I'm unfamiliar with administrating a Fido node, but I'll learn soon enough. More importantly, I'm looking for CURRENT BBS software for Linux and a list of CURRENT nodes.


Thanks!

H_TeXMeX_H 02-06-2010 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tpreitzel (Post 3854442)
OK, folks. With Microsoft essentially promoting "Internet Driver Licenses" for the internet, I see where this dog is headed and I don't like the master.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...25188060.shtml

Quote:

"If you want to drive a car you have to have a license to say that you are capable of driving a car, the car has to pass a test to say it is fit to drive and you have to have insurance."
Yeah, you wanna bet what they're gonna do with this ?

Your computer has to be licensed as "safe", and the only computers that will be "safe" will be running Window$. Muhuhahahahah !!!

However, I'm sure there will be a way around this BS, there always is...

MrCode 02-06-2010 04:11 AM

Quote:

Your computer has to be licensed as "safe", and the only computers that will be "safe" will be running Window$. Muhuhahahahah !!!
You forgot the part where the only browser that's "safe" is IE!! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

barboolian 02-06-2010 07:07 AM

This bloke I know asked me how I was getting on with my new computer. He asked me if it was slowing down yet.

"Slowing down?" I said.

"Yeah, they all do, because internet use makes the logs fill up."

"Logs? You are probably thinking of Microsoft. You know I am on Linux, I don't think it has the kinds of logs of which you speak."

"You have to have the logs. You can't delete them."

"There's nothing a Linux user cannot delete."

"You can't delete the logs. It's the law."

In the event of internet driver's license, will the above statement be true? Will I be arrested if I delete the logs (whatever they might be)?

H_TeXMeX_H 02-06-2010 07:40 AM

Well, although I'm sure M$ Window$ likes to keep logs of everything and send them to little Billy, I can't say that even if it did keep logs this would be a reason for Window$ slowing down over time. No, I think it slows down because it's a POS. It's true that once you install Window$ you have a limited amount of time before the inevitable self-destruction.

sycamorex 02-06-2010 08:23 AM

For anyone who still doesn't know where the internet is located and how it looks like:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDbyYGrswtg

sycamorex 02-06-2010 08:27 AM

... and another thing that I'm sure you guys didn't know about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrQUW...eature=related

smeezekitty 02-06-2010 03:48 PM

Actually, we should blow up this thread.

H_TeXMeX_H 02-06-2010 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smeezekitty (Post 3855118)
Actually, we should blow up this thread.

No, I say we ban everyone who responded to it, ban them from the internet, permanently !

XavierP 02-06-2010 04:39 PM

Especially the person who did post #8

tpreitzel 02-06-2010 08:44 PM

The main problem is controlling access to a communication medium. Almost any excuse could be used by various entities to allegedly justify controlling access, thereby potentially excluding access to "unqualified" or undesirable patrons. Question: How many of you have paid for access to the InterNet with cash, i.e. totally anonymous? ;)

One could use a prepaid telephone card purchased with cash for access to an easily monitored RF network, but access to the InterNet through an ISP still remains a problem. If any of you know of an ISP who accepts cash payments, let us know. ;)

Personally, I'd like to see the use of RF networks minimized and the increasing awareness of the hazards of RF radiation will likely force the issue eventually.

Since competition is good, FidoNet is an alternative to the InterNet for global communication. However, we still have the problem of an entity, i.e. government (FCC), controlling "access" to the communication medium, this time through PSTNs.

Now, the question becomes: Is a patron's access to a global communications network more easily controlled through a PSTN or through an ISP? Is RF more easily monitored than fiber? Personally, I'll gamble with a PSTN. Why? The answer is related to the dual-purpose nature of a PSTN, i.e. voice AND data. Can you imagine the government trying to ban incoherent light one day or restrict grandma from using her telephone? Maybe, the government will just ban specific products using specific wavelengths, e.g. light bulbs and LEDs. HaHaHa!

In the meantime, optical links are much more secure than RF. Hence, the really smart :) folks reading this thread will be on local mesh networks employing optical links using incoherent light, e.g. high-powered LED, or coherent light, i.e. laser. Now, secure LANs are totally feasible with optical links. The main problem is the LOS limitation and the requirement for a sufficiently large tower, i.e. at least 40+ feet, to clear a normal lines of trees. With a tower in the yard ;) and Ronja optical links (www.fasto.cz/fso) spread among local peers, a neighborhood can be essentially free of FCC regulation and illegal government snooping of private communication.

Two obstacles remain in having totally anonymous and free communication:
1. Drive to cashless society as embodied in numerous automatons on the InterNet. ;)
2. Ubiquitous use of easily monitored RF communication links despite the use of encryption.

Now, how do I find a PSTN provider who accepts cash payments from John Doe? ;)

FINALLY, WHY THE LIMITATION ON ONLY 6 IMAGES IN A POST, or why are emoticons considered images under this limitation?

tpreitzel 02-06-2010 09:48 PM

The silence is deafening. :)

nigelc 02-06-2010 10:06 PM

Boot off a DOS disk, then type format c:
y

tpreitzel 02-06-2010 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nigelc (Post 3855306)
Boot off a DOS disk, then type format c:
y

Implying? ;)


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