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Old 01-09-2015, 08:10 PM   #1
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Arrow paradox


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno%27s_paradoxes

Parmenides's doctrine that contrary to the evidence of one's senses, the belief in plurality and change is mistaken, and in particular that motion is nothing but an illusion.

Someone who was around when Zeno lived should have proposed an experiment.

Ask Zeno to have a gun fired at him and prove for sure that motion is an illusion. :-)
 
Old 01-10-2015, 07:45 AM   #2
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Eh, quantum physics, physics and what the heck is this reality stuff anyway?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

It's miles above my pay grade.
 
Old 01-10-2015, 08:51 AM   #3
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It seems to me that Zeno's paradoxs were based on the theory that time could be broken into points, in which things were still, and not moving...the same with space. It assumes a durationless period of time, for instance. Of course, there is no such thing as a durationaless moment of time, thus Zeno is proved wrong. It is interesting to read and think about though.

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One of many things never to exist, knowledge... only AI.
 
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A duration-less moment is Impossible?
Hmmm... Well if time is just a dimension, and space-time a rational construct then it just comes down to taking a big enough stick and whacking reality just right.
If we compress space-time sufficiently, it'll collapse dimension by dimension, time likely being the first (event horizon), giving you your eternal duration-less moment.
The trick, I'd guess, is squeezing just hard enough and no harder.
 
Old 01-11-2015, 04:37 PM   #6
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Guess it's like infinity.

There are an infinite amount of points in an inch.

Same with a half inch.

So some infinities are less than others. :-)
 
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Those philosophers must have had some pretty good barbiturates ...

Or maybe they were just government employees. In their offices, time does not pass at all.
 
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Someone who was around when Zeno lived should have proposed an experiment.

Ask Zeno to have a gun fired at him and prove for sure that motion is an illusion. :-)
Because guns were available when Zeno lived.
 
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"Acid invites you through the door," as Denis liked to say--"PCP opens the door, shoves you through, slams it behind you, and locks it."
But, then or even-ever without drugs a dream knows "in\"sanity."
 
Old 01-14-2015, 06:42 AM   #10
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What is our reality but the dream of an ESXi server?
I work on machines that aren't really there, I'm living Learys dream
 
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One of many things never to exist, knowledge... only AI.
Real AI also not exist yet. Only parodies.
 
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