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Old 04-22-2014, 01:45 AM   #1
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Are there some laptops/notebooks which can be helpful for programming?


The general laptops are wide screen. They may be useful for
watching movies but they aren't much helpful for
programming because the programs we write are "lengthy"
not breadth wise wide!

I find it difficult and most irritating to scroll big codes on wide
screen laptops.

Are there some laptops/notebooks which can be helpful for
programming considering the problem described above?

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Old 04-22-2014, 11:07 AM   #2
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The general laptops are wide screen. They may be useful for watching movies but they aren't much helpful for
programming because the programs we write are "lengthy" not breadth wise wide!

I find it difficult and most irritating to scroll big codes on wide screen laptops.

Are there some laptops/notebooks which can be helpful for programming considering the problem described above?
There is no real 'problem' to solve.

Don't like your editor to be 'wide'? Then grab the edge of your editor window, and make it as narrow as you'd like. Limit your vi editor to however many columns you'd like. Make a narrow terminal window.
 
Old 04-22-2014, 11:47 AM   #3
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How is that going to solve the problem of scrolling huge code?
Because the screen is small in height, the amount of code displayed
at a go will be less and if I tighten the window vertically, more
lesser code will be displayed!
 
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You can prop a Surface 2 Pro (or another tablet PC) up vertically and still use an external keyboard, can't you?

Honestly, though, there's really no good solution to this. The reality is that the standard way to solve it is to buy an external monitor and use it where you can.

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Old 04-22-2014, 01:36 PM   #5
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How is that going to solve the problem of scrolling huge code? Because the screen is small in height, the amount of code displayed at a go will be less and if I tighten the window vertically, more lesser code will be displayed!
Either you have fewer, longer lines (meaning a WIDER SCREEN) or you have more, shorter lines. That's your choice. There is no 'problem' to solve, and certainly no hardware solution to solve it.

Want fewer lines with the same information? Then make the lines longer...that's it. Want shorter lines? Then you'll have more OF them. Simple. This holds true for a 9" screen or a 40" screen, no matter what editor.
 
Old 04-22-2014, 01:51 PM   #6
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Either you have fewer, longer lines (meaning a WIDER SCREEN) or you have more, shorter lines. That's your choice. There is no 'problem' to solve, and certainly no hardware solution to solve it.

Want fewer lines with the same information? Then make the lines longer...that's it. Want shorter lines? Then you'll have more OF them. Simple. This holds true for a 9" screen or a 40" screen, no matter what editor.
I think that what is being referred to is that you used to buy a laptop with a 4:3 screen that was 1280*1025 pixels but now you generally get fewer pixels for laptops of that size and price since the screens are 1280x720.
Sadly that answer seems to be to spend a lot more money on a 1920x1080 display and get a little more width for your money. Heck, even desktop monitors tend to be tied to a pathetic 1080 pixels deep unless you manage to search out an exception.
With any luck though the advent of these "retina" displays will make 1920x1080 much cheaper but I doubt any manufacturer will start making 4:3 screen again.
 
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I think that what is being referred to is that you used to buy a laptop with a 4:3 screen that was 1280*1025 pixels but now you generally get fewer pixels for laptops of that size and price since the screens are 1280x720.
Sadly that answer seems to be to spend a lot more money on a 1920x1080 display and get a little more width for your money. Heck, even desktop monitors tend to be tied to a pathetic 1080 pixels deep unless you manage to search out an exception.
With any luck though the advent of these "retina" displays will make 1920x1080 much cheaper but I doubt any manufacturer will start making 4:3 screen again.
That may be the case, but there's little that can be done, aside from buying the biggest screen you can find. Even if you hike the resolution up, you'll wind up with text so tiny you can't read it. The OP specifically mentioned width, but still...either have longer (and fewer) lines or shorter (and more).

My laptop is 1600x900, and it works great for me. Haven't had any issues with any editor, and my font size in kdevelop is set to 11. I'm driving my desktop rig at 2560 x 1600, on a 30" monitor....but that's hardly suitable for a laptop.
 
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The OP specifically mentioned width, but still...either have longer (and fewer) lines or shorter (and more).
That is simply not possible when editing code or scripts when one line takes up one line.
"Wide Screen" is the general name for these stupid reduced-height displays foisted upon us. You, personally, may not have a problem but you only have to keep your eyes open to see that many people do have a problem. Heck, my main desktop screen is used mainly for movies and other entertainment but I'd hate to replace my 1920*1200 with a 1920*1080 which due to the lack of affordable higher resolutions I would likely have to do if it failed.

As I mentioned, the answer to the 4:3 being phased out is to spend more money just to get back to what was a normal vertical resolution. It doesn't mean we should be happy about it though.
 
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You could get a monitor stand that allows rotating the screen 90 degrees, do that, and then rotate the image 90 degrees.
 
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Most laptops now a days are wide screen but most programmers run external monitors. The programmer sitting in the cube next to me runs three. You can then rotate one to have the code there.
 
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Either you have fewer, longer lines (meaning a WIDER SCREEN) or you have more, shorter lines. That's your choice. There is no 'problem' to solve, and certainly no hardware solution to solve it.
When you don't understand the question, it is best not to
write a reply and thus prevent time and effort wastage.

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You can prop a Surface 2 Pro (or another tablet PC) up vertically and still use an external keyboard, can't you?

Honestly, though, there's really no good solution to this. The reality is that the standard way to solve it is to buy an external monitor and use it where you can.
Actually, an external monitor/keyboard will defeat the advantage
of using a laptop - "portability".

I'd rather buy a desktop computer instead.

I wonder if some kind of laptops are available where you
can detach the screen and the re-attach it vertically, and
then when you are done re-attach them back horizontally?

 
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I just now found this: http://www.flipkart.com/hp-pavilion-...c-b4b4d5a35d39

Didn't know these kind of things also exist. Its screen height is much more
than what we can get on a laptop and it doesn't contain any external CPU too.

Seems I can use it while sitting on the bed!
 
Old 04-23-2014, 08:27 AM   #13
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I didn't see it this was mentioned but why not add wrapping markers? I like small text too.

Some computers can code faster (so to speak.)

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And when questions are fairly pointless, it's best not to ask them. Same goes for when you can't grasp the answers you were given.
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Actually, an external monitor/keyboard will defeat the advantage of using a laptop - "portability".

I'd rather buy a desktop computer instead. I wonder if some kind of laptops are available where you can detach the screen and the re-attach it vertically, and then when you are done re-attach them back horizontally?
You seem to be missing the point. You are asking for more screen resolution vertically...the width doesn't enter into it. So buy a laptop that has the highest resolution vertically that you can find (and afford). Don't like that option? Then buy a tablet like a Surface pro or any other 'convertible' tablet with keyboard. Detach the tablet part, and rotate it. You will STILL not get more screen real-estate than a 'regular' laptop. The Surface pro 2 is almost $900..it has a 1920x1080 screen. So in portrait mode, you'll have a 1920 vertical resolution...on a machine that can't be repaired/upgraded.

If you spend $949, you can get a Dell XPS 15, you will have a 3200x1800 screen. Very close, with a LOT more horsepower.
 
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For the non portability option a laptop can hook up to a bigger screen that can turn sideways.

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