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Old 03-07-2013, 10:32 AM   #91
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A lot of thrift stores here won't even take PCs as a matter of policy. To be fair, many of them probably don't have staff skilled enough to determine what's worth keeping on the shelves or how much to charge for it.
This is good to know. Then there are lesser options to recycle eWaste.

Here at this store, books, cds, viny records, VHS etc., got to be so much that they couldn't even handle the influx of these. So, they gave them away at 10 for 5 bucks. Still there is quite a bit. In the future 10 or 15 years down the road, eWaste is expected to increase exponentially. Then they might have to get an IT expert, atleast as a volunteer. Books were sorted and shelved here by retired senios at this store, they enjoyed doing it and did thison a volunteer basis.
 
Old 03-07-2013, 10:36 AM   #92
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From my post that did not show up at Murga Forums. They have a spam filter which I guess did not like my Urls. Just did this since you said



Most Puppy users have newer gear now a days. Me. I prefer AntiX on my older gear when possible.



I sold both so I don't have them anymore. I am a member at LQ and have read your thread but not replied to it though.


http://yatsite.blogspot.com/2009/07/...-old-gear.html

http://yatsite.blogspot.com/2008/09/...indows-95.html

http://yatsite.blogspot.com/2008/10/...on-compaq.html

Like I said. I sold them. The oldest thing I have anymore in a bag is a small netbook circa

http://tinypic.com/useralbum.php?ua=...1Bbb5mUQ%3D%3D

That is P66Hz ,12MB of ram, Battery still hulds a charge and everything works that used
to have Windows 95 and is a dialup Netbook. I install Blue Flops since it has a 2.6 kernek
in the hopes of procuring a 16bit etherent or wireless pcmcia card in my area but
decided it could become a antique an d go to a collector eventually instead/

My Oldest working one now is a IBM A22m Laptop I used to run Puppy Dingto on.
A P1000hz ,512MB ram,Floppy,DVDROM . But it runs AntiX 12 on it now. Battery is good and it runs a wireless G pcmcia 32bit cardbus.

I have another IBM A22M that works, (kinda)
Pentium 500hz, 256MB of ram, Bad Battery, Screen lights up white but works
OK with external CRT. I run a Lighthouse 32 bit that I am not sure is available or not plus
supported anymore.

Whew, , Long post for a Friday.

Have you checked out


http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=65544

Happy Trails and Good Luck


Since I posted last Friday. I picked up a Netgear MA401 Wireless B PCMCIA 16bit Card Bus for that netbook in Pictures.
Funny part is. My wireless and everyone else's is WPA encrypted. This 16 bit wireless card is not wpa capable as
far as i know. I used Kill Disk on the 2 (50MB/10MB) drives that showed on the floppy disk.
Blueflops might have another go at it but I don't hold out much hope for wpa less card and dialup 16bit modem card (which I also have)
is not a option either. Still makes a nice working antique on the shelf though.
Amazing post that is a wonderful learning experience. Thanks for taking the time to share all this info.

Yes, I did wonder why your post appeared empty in the Puppy forum. So far I focused more on desktops only, your post tells me the need to focus on laptops also. More of these can be expected also down the road. Personally, I feel I have enough computing power to last me a life time. However, it helps to keep an eye open. Maybe I can assist someone else who needs this assistance.
 
Old 03-07-2013, 10:44 AM   #93
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I also wish to add, that I have dumpster dived before. However, these days the trash to treasures ratio is very low locally. It mostly, just cardboard boxes etc., So, one has get more creative and specific like networking directly with folks who upgrade often and/or wish to declutter etc.,

Thanks again all for the outstanding support here. Based on the recent posts I will watch videos of Atari PC, opening a laptop and installs of Deli Linux on older PC etc., on youtube in the future.
 
Old 03-07-2013, 03:49 PM   #94
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My older PC seems far powerful compared to this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVwfDA4watU

This quite old machine also seems to work:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVZrL4k1los

This is also interesting to see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...0q3IS5Tyk&NR=1


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Old 03-07-2013, 05:16 PM   #95
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Helpful Videos regarding Deli Linux Install.

http://delicate-linux.net/video/0.1/...a2-Install.mp4
http://delicate-linux.net/video/0.1/...ha2-Update.mp4
http://delicate-linux.net/video/0.1/...alpha2-GUI.mp4
 
Old 03-07-2013, 05:40 PM   #96
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25 Amazing facts about old computers, the more we understand them, the better we can use them:
http://oldcomputers.net/25-random-things.html
 
Old 03-08-2013, 10:02 AM   #97
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I went to salvation army stores again to return a bunch of old clothes. They let me have 23 floppy disks for $2.99, one is damaged, original pack had 25. Still a good deal. They also had a few keyboards on sale (PS2) for 3 bucks. This is not a bad idea but I have enough already. Also saw a mouse and wheel for gaming. Will go there again sometime and see.

Also vintage computing is gaining ground. Please check the last item in this page:
http://www.bankrate.com/lite/smart-s...nvestment.aspx

Now I recollect that I had bought an Electric typewriter for 300 bucks or so in 1993 or so, it had a floppy disk drive, word processing and spread sheet software. I am almost sure cartridges for this were stopped a long time ago. I gave this up in 1994 when I had to move. It worked quite good and was a pleasure to use.

The one thing about real old PCs is that they don't have ethernet card and USB ports (eg., my old i386, Pentium 1 etc.,) So, they will good for mostly offline work today. Hooking them online will probably cost more than they are worth now.

On a different note, I went thru Deli Linux Setup, it is not recognizing my mouse, hope this issue can be resolved.
 
Old 03-08-2013, 10:05 AM   #98
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The pi is basically like a netbook without a KB and mouse. Certainly makes me wonder why it took sooo long before these were made. For now tho, I am happier with my older PC and will not be interested in anything else unless it was a magnificient deal.
 
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I had a rule before, no audio, video or pictures on my PC.(I used other devices such as cd player, DVD player etc., for entertainment) Text files only mainly. This rule greatly helped reduce my uptime. As a result, this PC was used only to write brief messages online and get some files. So, no wonder this old PC still has a lot of time left on it. I will begin to follow this rule again. Then uptime daily will vary from 3 hrs to 1hr per day. On somedays, I will not even boot this PC. This will help avoid eye candy online and focus on real life more while saving power, increasing lifespan of IT equipment etc.,

Here is an interesting list of Floppy based Operating Systems. Big contrast compared to the bloatware of today:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego...rating_systems
 
Old 03-08-2013, 02:24 PM   #100
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I think at this point in time the bundled software included in most distros is too bloated for a 586-class processor. If you still wanted to use it, I'd try putting OpenBSD on it. Otherwise, I'd turn it into a packet filter/firewall or just recycle it.
 
Old 03-08-2013, 02:28 PM   #101
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It's not just the software. The more recent Linux Kernels won't run on anything below Pentium class.
 
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Thanks for all the recent responses. Any more, including criticisms are welcome. They are a wonderful learning experience. Presently, this PC is working fine with Puppy Quirky 1.4. I am typing this message using my Old PC. A lot of things I am trying here are for a learning experience.
 
Old 03-08-2013, 04:53 PM   #103
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Just wanted to add that with Deli Linux, the mouse issue was resolved and it is mostly working ok on my old PC. Typing this message via Deli Linux.
 
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There is a very vital question for users of old PC like myself. What can we do, if we have to access some service online that needs the latest browser of a certain type ? There are a few options for this case:
1. Look for someone with a new PC who will allow you to use it for a short time periodically for something else you can offer them in exchange. This usually works between parties who know each other well already.

2. Use a community PC like in a library.

3. Get a tablet PC, these are cheaper than getting a full desktop and with wifi, most stuff usually works ok.

With some good creative planning in advance, one can continue to use their old PC with Linux in peace. One other good thing about older PCs is that they are lot less likely to be stolen as they have very little resale value.

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3. Get a tablet PC, these are cheaper than getting a full desktop and with wifi, most stuff usually works ok.
I wouldn't be so sure about that. I've a first-gen iPad and the lack of Flash and other internet technologies I've not managed to pin down mean it often fails to show me websites that my old EEE PC can display fine.
A general-purpose computer will generally be of more use than a consumer device once you know how to use it.
A newer tablet may seem cheaper but it will soon cost more -- better a less-old PC.
And I'm the guy who was suggesting replacing old devices earlier...
 
  


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