This was getting worse, so I opened my PC and there was quite a bit of dust insides
but not as bad as the last two times. These were blown away. The inner sides of the blades of the CPU fan had dust on them that was not removed before, this I removed now. Unable to remove the CPU heat Sink Two clip Latch, will check youtube for this. One vital reason I was not having crashes before was that I didn't run my PC constantly and gave it adequate rest, used it only when needed. There is no reason to run an older PC constantly and overheat it. Will try and see if this helps. Need to clean the bottom sides of fan and inbetween the heat sink blades with alcohol dipped cotton swab. Will reserve this for future. This video explains the likely reason as a broken mounting bracket that doesn't hold the heat sink in place, I have exactly this type of bracket: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZdKq8Tjzx8 However, mine isn't broken. I have to certainly try replacing the thermal paste, but after watching this video, I am not too keen as the bracket maybe broken causing a major issue, I am not a fan of buying things on ebay, never done it before. This is too much hazzle for an older PC. So will try to reduce its consistent use, give it atleast few hours rest daily and see if it helps, if it does then glad that issue is solved. Time will tell. This video shows how to remove the clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNkJXTYZ9JE Can try this in the future if needed. |
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When actually doing something, if your cpu is NOT running at 100% (single channel) then there is something wrong, that is what it is supposed to do! Lack of RAM is most of your problem. Also you should check that it is not overheating as suggested. I have a 2.4Ghz P4 with 2Gb ram and that copes with anything I trow at it WEB wise. |
1GB of RAM should be adequate, but not with Puppy and probably not with Seamonkey web browser. The problem is that Puppy eats up a good chunk of that RAM on its semi-compressed file system, and things will get progressively worse if you don't reboot the computer because more and more of it will be de-compressed into a union'ed tmpfs (without even freeing up the space from the compressed file).
In contrast, if you install Debian (with lightweight DE/WM, such as XFCE4 or IceWM), and use chromium web browser, the amount of RAM consumed at idle will be reduced and the chromium web browser will be relatively efficient with the remaining RAM. |
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350 Mb when playing videos. I also have swap, that is also hardly used. So this doesn't indicate the need for more Ram. |
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etc., is at 80% max approx. Moreover, most times it is around 40% for viewing video. So the total shutdown when not in use is helping with its cooling. |
wikihow.com is failing to load on this PC now on old SeaMonkey and Opera web browsers with the error message below. So trying a live CD of a more recent OS is needed in future for this PC, it is actually needed right now but I am delaying it some.
Secure Connection Failed An error occurred during a connection to www.wikihow.com. Cannot communicate securely with peer: no common encryption algorithm(s). (Error code: ssl_error_no_cypher_overlap) The page you are trying to view can not be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified.Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem. |
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I gave it enough rest and started PC, xwindows crashed again. This time it is not just rest, overheating, there is some hardware issue for sure that has to be managed.
If it is not the CPU paste, then it is the onboard video card perhaps. As with the hard drive malfunction, entire PC may freeze or shutdown etc., Checkedout all the capacitors on the mobo, they all seem ok, no leaks on top. At this point it seems best to take whatever is possible from this PC and discard the Case, Mobo etc., Either that or replace the Mobo, CPU etc., and see if that helps. Must also experiment and learn as much as possible from these problems. This is a great PC to learn from. Lastly must backup all data that is not backed up ASAP. Anytime this PC can fail at this stage. This PC is taking its last few breaths it seems, sad but accepting this gives peace. |
Ok, had to REALLY, REALLY do this as it was getting to be quite bad.
Removed the heat sink, it was a struggle with the clip both when taking it off and putting it back on. There was quite a bit of dust below the CPU fan on the inner sides of the blades, on the heat sink and on top of the CPU itself. There was so CPU paste and it was totally gone. Cleared all the dust, even washed the fan blades with moist paper towels. Applied TOMATO PASTE on top of the CPU, it is a bit moist, so used it sparingly and lightly. Also used this chance to oil the CPU fan. Then put everything together and back on. Turned on PC and it is working fine. Will see how it performs now and if/how often the crashes happen now. Will be interesting to observe. Will observe this for a week atleast. Next is to try a different OS after this for the web. Perhaps a more recent OS may also help improve the performance. Will wait for this. Bending down and struggling with the brackets was a bit demanding as I age. So, for those trying it, helps to prepare to do this slowly and in steps. Don't rush or push if anything doesn't seem right. It can break the brackets etc., and then this is very big trouble. Edited to add: Tried to play a youtube video to see how CPU performs after these changes. It went to 100% on open but quickly dropped to 50% or so and then stayed around that range just going to about 60% or so few times, so this is a very huge change in performance from before even an hour ago. Looks promising for now. Since the tomato paste was a bit too watery, I kept a bit of it on a paper towel for a while for the moisture to be absorbed, next time will even add a tiny bit of baking soda or corn starch etc., to make it a bit more thick, this might improve performance even better. Edited again to add further: In reflection, here is how the problem started and got worse. When I tried to get rid of the dust inside my PC, a bit of the dust from the fan went inside the heat sink and also behind it. This is a very small amount for us, but it is enough to cause heat issues for the CPU. Since I get more dust indoors, this means every few years this issue will present itself and I have to do the same. So, have to reduce the need to dust the PC insides too often. Also, find a way perhaps to clean the dust without having it go inside the heat sink and CPU area too much. Lastly must consider getting extra brackets in advance and keeping if the one I have on this PC breaks. This will avoid any frustrations. Will reflect further on and see. |
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Hope this helps. Have fun & enjoy! :hattip: |
WFT, tomato paste? The acidicness of it will probably damage something long term though it will it will probably rot and stink first.
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I'm being facetious here but the point is you can't always trust everything you see on a video. Food doesn't mix with electronics very well, your going to cause more problems than what you fix. |
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