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sh3llc0de 10-16-2008 01:50 PM

Anyone still use ReiserFS?
 
Seeing that Hans Reiser is officially sitting in a penitentiary, do you still use ReiserFS?

robel 10-16-2008 01:58 PM

Yes, having a /home partition (and being to lazy to convert) in ReiserFS. The guy may be a killer, but his code works. I would not stop using Linux if Linus became a serial killer. :) Not that I think he would though... :D

Oh, and my router is an old Slackware 10.1.0 with ReiserFS. It works, but I've considered an upgrade many times. Still have not had time to spare on that project. When I do I'll go for ext3 or ext4

sh3llc0de 10-16-2008 02:02 PM

ReiserFS never really did it for me...

I wonder if users would buy a copy of Windows if Bill Gates became a murder :|

indienick 10-16-2008 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sh3llc0de
I wonder if users would buy a copy of Windows if Bill Gates became a murder :|

I get the hunch that the popularity of Windows would significantly dwindle.

I use ReiserFS on a 500GB backup drive. I have never had a problem with data going missing when the server it is attached to goes down suddenly (from a power outage or something); the transactions replay, and my data is still intact. :)

Primarily though, I use JFS for my main partitions and ext2 for my boot drive.

ProtoformX 10-16-2008 04:01 PM

I use ReiserFS and I will continue to use it, because one man is convicted of crime doesn't mean his achivments mean nothing, if Tesla was a serial killer would use you anything you do today? because if you say yes, it was Tesla that made today what it is, so because Reiser made a bad choice in life doesn't mean his invention (in his case, his code) is evil.

CRC123 10-16-2008 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ProtoformX (Post 3312637)
I use ReiserFS and I will continue to use it, because one man is convicted of crime doesn't mean his achivments mean nothing, if Tesla was a serial killer would use you anything you do today? because if you say yes, it was Tesla that made today what it is, so because Reiser made a bad choice in life doesn't mean his invention (in his case, his code) is evil.

Perhaps Edison's Direct Current(DC) would have been the winning way to distribute electricity had Tesla or Westinghouse commit murder during that time. ;)

Quakeboy02 10-16-2008 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CRC123 (Post 3312665)
Perhaps Edison's Direct Current(DC) would have been the winning way to distribute electricity had Tesla or Westinghouse commit murder during that time. ;)

The technology for long-distance power transmission simply wasn't there, because it's not trivial to convert 100V DC to 1,000,000V DC and back using the primitive tools they had. Even today, if we tried to use DC, we'd find that 100V DC is simply not a good supply for even small urban settings. AC won because it had advantages back then and today. Transformers are much cheaper at any scale than DC-DC converters.

j.todd 10-16-2008 05:13 PM

I just started using reiserFS. I heard it was good so did a reinstall of Debian and tried it out on my root (/) partition. I later read that sometimes the FS can become corrupt if the system crashes or is shutdown improperly, so I've been trying to get it to break: turn off the circuit breakers in the house, try and make the kernel panic (haven't been able to :p), just pull the plug on the laptop while I'm doing something (compiling something). But nothing bad has happened, and I'm pretty satisfied. I plan on using it for a while, or at least until Ext4 comes out.

jiml8 10-16-2008 05:15 PM

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Transformers are much cheaper at any scale than DC-DC converters.
In an era of cheap and steadily cheaper silicon, this is no longer obvious. Witness how switching power supplies have taken over from analog supplies; switchers are smaller, lighter, and cheaper than the big analog supply with its metal-intensive transformer.

loperz7 10-16-2008 05:20 PM

Yes, I still use it.
If you found out Satan created twinkies would you still eat them?

The guy did a crime and he's doing his time, and I don't see why people need to stop using a piece of software because of the developers.

Gentoo

ErV 10-16-2008 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sh3llc0de (Post 3312506)
Seeing that Hans Reiser is officially sitting in a penitentiary, do you still use ReiserFS?

Not using ReiserFS because of murder could make SOME sense only if Hans Reiser killed his wife with ReiserFS.

I've tried reiserfs several times, but I didn't find critical differences between xfs, ext3, jfs and reiserfs, so I"m using ext3 right now (for no particular reason).

Jeebizz 10-16-2008 10:49 PM

I have tried ReiserFS, and done some research on XFS and JFS, and decided on JFS, and not regretted my decision. JFS is very efficient, especially on my old AMD 450MHz desktop. I heard that the SuSe distro dropped ReiserFS due to the whole murder debacle, and now since Hans as been found guilty, I would imagine that whoever is maintaining ReiserFS will probably rename the FS to WhateeverFS V1.0. I don't see the name sticking around much longer, but thats just the name. The code itself will be the same.

Sooner or later it will not be called ReiserFS anymore. Probably NinaFS V1.0.

sh3llc0de 10-17-2008 02:18 PM

NinaFS actually sounds pretty cool.

masch08 10-22-2008 07:34 PM

If you never want to change anything you might use reiserfs, but don't do any changes to your partition table. I just crashed my partition ext3 is still ok but reiserfs is lost!

masonm 10-23-2008 11:59 AM

While I use XFS mostly, I do still use ReiserFS on some drives.

sh3llc0de 10-23-2008 04:29 PM

heh, you seem to have misinterpreted what I was getting at. The main concern is that the lead developer, of ReiserFS, is in handcuffs. How can he work on his project now? :)

ErV 10-23-2008 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sh3llc0de (Post 3320133)
heh, you seem to have misinterpreted what I was getting at. The main concern is that the lead developer, of ReiserFS, is in handcuffs. How can he work on his project now? :)

Source code is open, anyone can pick the project and continue it.

Slokunshialgo 10-23-2008 06:22 PM

I used to use reiserFS, but only because it was the default option on Slackware. I use ext3 now, since it seems to be more supported, and easy to find programs for Windows to let me read/write them.

crashmeister 10-24-2008 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sh3llc0de (Post 3320133)
heh, you seem to have misinterpreted what I was getting at. The main concern is that the lead developer, of ReiserFS, is in handcuffs. How can he work on his project now? :)

Hehe - on a real small keyboard ;)

Reiser3 is no more developed (as in mature as it will get)and bugs are handled by the kernel maintainers since it is part of the kernel.

Reiser4? History I'd guess - couldn't hold up against next-gen file systems anyway.

Jeebizz 10-24-2008 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by crashmeister

Reiser4? History I'd guess - couldn't hold up against next-gen file systems anyway.
There were no next gen filesystems at the time of Reiser4, and I don't even think ext4 was in it's beta stage as is still is right now. The reason why it was not included in the kernel was because Reiser4 was a radical departure of what previous versions were, and according to the developers of the kernel, Reiser4 broke many coding standards of the kernel. Well that whole thing can be read about here: http://kernelnewbies.org/WhyReiser4IsNotIn

Anyways, as far as Reiser4 is concerned, it has maybe one maintainer left, and it is still not in the kernel tree, so at this point consider it dead. I am still wondering if those who maintain the kernel will decide keep the name 'reiser' or rename it, because *SUSE dropped reiser completely, and I think may have even modified the kernel slightly to not even include the source to reiser? Maybe, thats just speculation anyways.

crashmeister 10-25-2008 04:19 AM

Ext4 is supposed to be out of beta in the next kernel release but doesn't qualify as next-gen way I see it.

The developers seem to have the same opinion BTW.

sh3llc0de 10-25-2008 04:08 PM

I never used ReiserFS to start with. Why use it when Ext3 works perfectly fine?

j.todd 10-25-2008 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sh3llc0de (Post 3321865)
I never used ReiserFS to start with. Why use it when Ext3 works perfectly fine?

Because ReiserFS may work better.

jschiwal 10-25-2008 05:13 PM

ReiserFS and Ext3 are two filesystems designed to be resilient and run on a variety of machines. Because they can be compiled on i386 machines they aren't as fast as other filesystems. However, any Linux machine and use them. They are a good choice for Desktops and Workstations where a user may accidently cut the power. Other filesystems would be a better choice for a database or media server that runs 24/7.

However, even years earlier, they way that ReiserFS was coded did not sit well with other kernel developers. ( I don't remember the details on this. )

I have an external drive that still uses the ReiserFS. What you need to be concerned about is whether it is still being supported. Non-supported code in the kernel is dead code that ends up being dropped. If NameSys doesn't exist in the future and no-one adopts the ReiserFS project, you may find that future kernels don't support it and will need to use something else.

Jeebizz 10-25-2008 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jschiwal

I have an external drive that still uses the ReiserFS. What you need to be concerned about is whether it is still being supported. Non-supported code in the kernel is dead code that ends up being dropped. If NameSys doesn't exist in the future and no-one adopts the ReiserFS project, you may find that future kernels don't support it and will need to use something else.
Thats my concern with JFS since I heard rumors that the developers of JFS that ported that FS to Linux may have stopped working on it, and releasing fixes, but I have been to the JFS page (http://jfs.sourceforge.net) and they are still updating it, thankfully.

To me JFS is very light weight and has very good benchmarks against other linux FSs, and on my old K6-2 it runs very smoothly.

ciotog 10-26-2008 05:30 PM

I used to use ReiserFS, but dropped it due to some nasty issues with it which resulted in lost data a number of times. I've heard a number of other similar stories from others as well. Basically it didn't work well with marginally flaky hardware (in other words for some hardware reiserfs would corrupt data where another FS wouldn't, due to minor, correctable hardware issues).

crashmeister 10-27-2008 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ciotog (Post 3322567)
I used to use ReiserFS, but dropped it due to some nasty issues with it which resulted in lost data a number of times.

What issues? Please enlighten us since ppl might run into the same problems.

sh3llc0de 10-29-2008 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by j.todd (Post 3321877)
Because ReiserFS may work better.

Doubt it. They both do journaling so... ?

r0x0rj00b0x0r 10-29-2008 12:07 PM

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Anyone still use ReiserFS?
NEVARR!!!!!!! My wife would not permit it... Besides I had already decided long ago, to stick to ext3 until ext4 comes out.

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Doubt it. They both do journaling so... ?
Reiser does offer higher inode and byte support than ext3. However, large data retaining organizations aside; there is no difference really.


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