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Originally posted by darkRoom
You do realise that there are european elections, and that you are entitled to vote for representatives in europe. I don't really understand your problem, theres plently of unelected civil servants making decisions in government in england, europe and the US. Do you really believe that uk politics is so democratically perfect ?
Personally i think a coordinated fishing policy makes sense, how else are we going to regulate the ever dwindling stocks of fish that we have. Unfortunately that means some fishermen are going to lose out (largely because of overfishing to start with) and unfortunately they'll have to find new jobs like everyone would have too. The beauty of europe is that we can limit the quota for all countries in europe, it would be political suicide for just one country to limit their fishing quota whilst the others fish as much as they like. This to me makes more sense than leaving europe so we can fish as much as we want.
Do you honestly think that everything would be much better if only we *werent* in the EU ? Whilst it is important to discuss europe i feel that certain members of UKIP are certainly quite prejeducied and many seem to have an irrational fear of Europe/foreign people.
edit, btw i just thought i'd add that im just interested about your views etc on europe (im not on a mission against ukip, i like to hear opinions/viewpoints etc and i've never spoken to anyone who was part of UKIP.
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I do realise that there are European elections. Of course there are unelected civil servants making decisions in lots of countries, however apart from the EU commission they are all accountable to politicians. In the past the decisions that Franz Fishler took would have been taken by politicians.
Can you think of a UK or US equivalent to the EU commission ?
Also do not forget the EU parliament is very unfair, the UK is very under represented, we should have a lot more MEPs than we do, our MEPs have 3 times as many constituents as Irish ones.
Of course a lot of things which would not be better in we left the EU although of course we would have more money (we pay £5 billion a year). I do not think leaving the EU would stop Johnny Wilkinson or Andy Flintoff from being injured !
However I disagree with you about fishing, if fishermen can only fish in one area they have to conserve, at the moment we in the UK subsidize Spanish fishermen to fish off the coast of west Africa.
http://www.wwf-uk.org/News/n_0000000500.asp
How can that be good for the enviroment ? Of course it is not.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...t_fishing.html
In the US where relatively small areas have had fishing stopped for security reasons, it has had beneficial effects on fish stocks, so of course in the UK we can protect our own marine enviroment.
Of course I do not think UK politics are perfect that is why one UKIP policy would improve it :-
http://ukip.org/index.php?menu=fivef...=fivefreedoms4
It would let UK voters have referendums as in the US.
BTW you are welcome to ask me any questions you like but it would quicker at first to look here :-
http://www.ukip.org/index.php?menu=u...ge=ukipfaqstop
