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Old 01-03-2004, 07:41 AM   #1
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Anybody else hate PDFs?


The title says it all. When I'm reading, I dont want to jump between "standards" just to read a link/continuation or an article. I know people like them (my former employer was a RIAA junky) because they're supposed to help protect copyrights, but damn!
 
Old 01-03-2004, 08:19 AM   #2
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No not really, Xpdf opens these things without any hassle at all........
 
Old 01-03-2004, 08:54 AM   #3
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I agree, but still, they are a bit annoying, especially when you're used to ctrl+num(+)ing mozilla to make the print larger. With PDFs, you have to play a game with the cursor keys to read anything that slides off the edge of the screen.
 
Old 01-03-2004, 09:52 AM   #4
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I don't hate PDFs, but I do think they get overused.
 
Old 01-03-2004, 10:54 AM   #5
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My main complaints :
Takes ages to load.
Requires yet another tool to make use of it.
Waaaaaaaaaaaayyyy overused. I even encounter(on a rather regular basis) pdf-files ,that contain nothing but text.(and plain text to boot too).
Propriety format without added value.

Html works way better for putting documents on the web.(IMO)
 
Old 01-03-2004, 11:46 AM   #6
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Me and my friend both used to think that Adobe Acrobat (thus, PDF) was pure evil. Of course I've grown more reasonable with age, but I still think that it's supremely annoying to have budget games which come with PDF files on the CD (that take ages to load) and a card saying 'On-line manual on CD'. I like to have a little booklet to read. Other than that, I don't particularly hate PDF.
 
Old 01-03-2004, 01:16 PM   #7
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i absolutely hate pdfs they are hard to read, their default view is crappy, it is annoying to change every time, they are just not very convient. i would personally rather read a .doc or .txt file
 
Old 01-03-2004, 01:26 PM   #8
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put me down for the ".pdfs suck" column. they definitely have some uses -- preserving custom formatting on a resume, for example -- but mostly they seem to be used by those too lazy to learn native wwweb protocols. they're hard to navigate and view, and you have to open a whole 'nother huge app just to view one of the damn things, as someone else also mentioned. overall i can't stand 'em.
 
Old 01-03-2004, 01:41 PM   #9
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I try to avoid them so I guess you can say I hate them as well. Sure like mentioned above they preserve formatting and such, but I really don't see any need for them unless you have text with images or graphs, etc in the pdf file. If its just going to be text, well, I see no point in making a pdf out of it.
 
Old 01-03-2004, 02:56 PM   #10
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Quote:
Originally posted by Megamieuwsel

Waaaaaaaaaaaayyyy overused. I even encounter(on a rather regular basis) pdf-files ,that contain nothing but text.(and plain text to boot too).
[...]
Html works way better for putting documents on the web.(IMO)
I totally agree!
Sure PDF files have uses, but these days, people tend to use it for everything, like formated text: why not use HTML?
Another thing; you can't copy/paste, and sometimes you need to quote...

Anyways, I don't hate PDF files, I don't care about them...
 
Old 01-05-2004, 08:12 AM   #11
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The only time I would use them would be for a picture intensive newsletter... they are better than a .doc attached(to email) with huge bmp pics.. heheh.
For webstuff I would reccomend html.. definitely. when I see a pdf file result from a google, I skip it.

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Old 01-05-2004, 08:15 AM   #12
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If you have dial up .pdfs are a nightmare as it takes ages to download them. Why have something that some people can not use.
With HTML almost any machine and any connection speed can use it.
 
Old 01-05-2004, 08:32 AM   #13
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For webstuff I would reccomend html.. definitely. when I see a pdf file result from a google, I skip it.
Google can convert pdf to html. I always use that. Pdf takes forever to d/l and it drives IE nuts.
 
Old 01-05-2004, 05:17 PM   #14
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I also dispise PDF's. On my system, it has to reload the page every time I scroll down or that kinda thing.

Give me an RTF or HTML anyday...
 
Old 01-05-2004, 06:18 PM   #15
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I dislike .pdf files also, I'm sure they're good for printing out, but that's about all I can think of. When I use to read lot's of .pdf files, I used a converter to change them to .html
 
  


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