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Old 08-12-2011, 10:34 AM   #1
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America the fascist state


There exists a case right now, where a citizen is being charged with "wiretapping" for videotaping the police beating the hell out of another citizen.

The whole article only concentrates on the videotaping and audiotaping aspect. It completely leaves the fact out that a citizen is being jailed for catching bad cops that BEAT A CITIZEN WITH A FLASHLIGHT. No good deed goes unpunished.

How many years until America is a total police state?

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,6171933.story
http://www.masslive.com/news/index.s...ideograph.html
http://www.presstv.com/usdetail/192349.html

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Old 08-12-2011, 11:32 AM   #2
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I saw a videoa few weeks ago (not sure if it's the same one you're talking about) where a woman was standing in her front yard and filmed police beating up a person. They arrested her on her own property without any warrant or reasonable justification just for having video taped them.

Land of the free and the brave indeed.
 
Old 08-12-2011, 12:29 PM   #3
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Instead of thinking of this as a fascist state, think of it as a corrupt local force overstepping their bounds. Somewhere, a lawyer is rubbing his hands and planning to buy a new yacht; that would not be possible in a fascist state.
 
Old 08-12-2011, 12:47 PM   #4
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Somewhere, a lawyer is rubbing his hands and planning to buy a new yacht; that would not be possible in a fascist state.
Somehow, that doesn't seem like enough, if that's the only difference.
 
Old 08-12-2011, 03:38 PM   #5
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somewhere, a lawyer is rubbing his hands and planning to buy a new yacht; that would not be possible in a fascist state.
usa! Usa!
 
Old 08-12-2011, 08:37 PM   #6
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Cases of the police arresting folks for taking pictures and videos of police actions in public do seen to be increasing.

Todd was discussing this sort of stuff in his podcast today.

One does wonder what the police are afraid of if they are just doing their jobs. They seem quite happy to appear on COPS.
 
Old 08-12-2011, 08:46 PM   #7
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COPS is generally on the TV channel that FOX is on, which is a conservative channel. They are very unlikely to show brutality from police officers.

Also, these things I would consider terrible and a bad thing to do. However, in federal cases sometimes I think hiding these things are better. Nobody really wants to know what goes down at G. Bay or Area 51 do they? It might be actual aliens, and if the public knew this could be detrimental to the U.S. overall, not just the government.
 
Old 08-12-2011, 08:56 PM   #8
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(grin) The whole point of COPS is to paint the police in a good light. I would never expect an incident of police misconduct to show up there.

As regards Gitmo, frankly, it would be better to know. A cover-up never prevented a crime.

As to Area 51, check out this:

http://www.npr.org/2011/05/17/136356...os-or-the-ussr
 
Old 08-12-2011, 09:07 PM   #9
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There is a lot of FUD on the news since they are biased toward their own agenda.

You don't really think that lady will spend a day in jail do you? She will end up with maybe $10,000 out of the whole deal.

Sure cops make mistakes but it is still RED BLOODED GOD FEARING AMERICANS that sit on juries. Stupid stuff like this just doesn't get by the courts too often unless idiots get in the jury pool. Look, if you wear aluminum foil on your head, don't show up for jury duty.

Wiretapping laws are clear on this subject and this is not one for that law. Wiretapping is the unauthorized recording of a "WIRE" ed connection.

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Old 08-12-2011, 09:21 PM   #10
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Just the threat of arrest is enough to deter most persons from doing something that is ultimately completely legal.
 
Old 08-13-2011, 02:28 AM   #11
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I am a socialist and an Atheist so....

there are not quite "goose stepping" in front of the Reichstag (read - white house) YET

however the GOP would just love to have a very far right christian state
"W" came close but did not start a new "crusade " and did not take Jerusalem

I might be time for a NEW "Boston tea party " ( not the GOP's tea-party)

But it is time to get OUR COUNTRY back and start a NEW Revelation
 
Old 08-13-2011, 04:47 AM   #12
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Instead of thinking of this as a fascist state, think of it as a corrupt local force overstepping their bounds. Somewhere, a lawyer is rubbing his hands and planning to buy a new yacht; that would not be possible in a fascist state.
You've got to be joking.

Lawyers might not have done quite as well as they do in the US, but I'm sure that there were several nazi lawyers who bought yachts in the 1933-1940 era (though technically the nazis are not fascists) and Italian lawyers who did the same in 1922-1940.

Its not just this one cases, there are others were law enforment officals are using the 'wiretapping' laws-

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...59019675.shtml
http://gizmodo.com/5553765/are-cameras-the-new-guns

Even cop on cop action (in a station house!) is getting the same BS applied-

http://www.masslive.com/news/index.s...pervisors.html

When you have police using the system to avoid 'professional problems' (with no legal ramifications), and states are changing laws to 'protect' police (in a way that the rest of us are not afforded) IMO you are pushing towards fascism/national socalism.
 
Old 08-13-2011, 04:57 AM   #13
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When you have police using the system to avoid 'professional problems' (with no legal ramifications), and states are changing laws to 'protect' police (in a way that the rest of us are not afforded) IMO you are pushing towards fascism/national socalism.
I thought all that was from GW Bush "Homeland Security" procedures...the New World Order is taking shape!
 
Old 08-13-2011, 05:18 AM   #14
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Let's not forget that every area of government has their own legal team to help them interpret the various rules and policies coming down from on high - if the wiretapping laws are open to abuse then the laws are poorly written. If the laws make it legal to remove citizen's rights under other laws, then you the people need to act to have the laws amended.
 
Old 08-13-2011, 10:24 AM   #15
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How many years until America is a total police state?
A few more months by my estimates.
 
  


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