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H4CK2013 07-17-2013 03:18 PM

ACLU warns of mass tracking through license plate scanners
 
Hi

It's not bad enough NSA/FBI is monitoring our web surfing/email commuincations and verizon is tracking our phone usage. Law enforcement officials are now tracking our vehicles for possible crime involvment or stolen vehicles

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...late-scanners/

adamk75 07-17-2013 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by H4CK2013 (Post 4992138)
Hi

It's not bad enough NSA/FBI is monitoring our web surfing/email commuincations and verizon is tracking our phone usage. ACLU is now tracking our vehicles for possible crime involvment or stolen vehicles

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...late-scanners/

Did you actually read the article? It's not the ACLU that's doing the tracking...

Adam

H4CK2013 07-17-2013 04:12 PM

My mistake :doh: That's what I get for for skimming the article

Anyway, after reading the article it don't seem as bad as NSA and verizon snooping on us.

If our cars gets stolen this can help police track our stolen cars IMOP

frankbell 07-17-2013 07:35 PM

The issue really is that they are simply scooping up data without rhyme or reason, but simply because it's there and they can.

Do they really need to keep a record of when you went to the bank or the market or the post office?

jefro 07-17-2013 07:53 PM

I checked. There aren't any cameras between my home and the gun range. Yet!

I am more upset about automated red light tickets when a subcontractor is in charge of them. Why is a company making money from my likeness. Where is the ACLU about that?

frankbell 07-17-2013 08:25 PM

They're agin' 'em.

http://www.acluct.org/issues/privacy...iclightcam.htm

A red light camera once caught my ex in the city I used to live in (she wasn't my ex at the time). She was guilty guilty guilty.

My own city uses them and it hasn't caused much stir, because the city is reasonably sane about it. But more and more cities are stopping their use. Google "cities discontinue red light cameras" for oodles of links.

sundialsvcs 07-23-2013 10:04 AM

There are, I think, three fundamental problems here:
  1. Millions, billions, and trillions of public dollars are being spent, literally, "because they can be spent, and spent in secret." War is a racket. Domestic surveillance has become a racket, too.
  2. Public discussion is not taking place. Risks and benefits are not being assessed. The achievability of promised objectives is not being considered, because you can "make so damned much money" whether you produce any results or not, "and no one will know." The cat is away, and the mice are playing. (And politicians, world-wide and as a species, will do just about anything for a currency-unit that is passed under the table...)
  3. The amount of money being (very questionably ...) spent on all this, is consuming resources that should be spent on other things that are important to a nation .. such as true health-care access, the old, the sick, the poor. (Even though the spending is #CLASSIFIED#, you can see the US National Debt spiraling into oblivion and put two-and-two well enough together. You can't spend that much money without leaving traces.)
Yes, we must "provide for the Common Defence" (sic), but that doesn't mean writing bottomless checks to every military contractor who comes to call, even if they promise to bribe you in secret, and even though they possess the well-proved capability to do so.

We are human, and we'd all better keep in mind what that means when it comes to matters of "pure power." Never forget what the Nazis did using telephone records. We are, as a society and as a social animal, vulnerable to these things, and we'd better never pretend that "it can't happen <here>."

Trust, but Verify. And then, peaceably and working within the systems that exist, do something about it. Speak up. There are, for example, 316 million or so "American people," whereas the entire "American government" at the very top consists of about 700 individuals. If millions people "turn on the lights in the kitchen," the rats will scramble for cover, and those millions of people can have whatever they want. (But: "be careful what you wish for.")

These very-simple principles do work, if they are used.

"How bad do you want it? Not bad enough..." -- Don Henley

jefro 07-23-2013 09:52 PM

"the rats will scramble for cover," You have never lived in Detroit. They don't scramble. They wait for a menu.

Anyway, I'm getting a IR illumination card for the front and back. I just have to figure out how to only keep in on when I'm driving it. Don't want it to get past the boarder on it's way to Mexico when it is stolen. How the heck do all those cars and trucks get stolen so easily?


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