brianL

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Same as your Joe Kennedy Snr, eh?

XavierP

And a good number of well established businesses. Nice derail though - the second world war is always current news. Yes, the US helped us out, but god did you drag your heels. Though it may be that you didn't want to join our side against your friends? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_American_Bund

rickh

Not to mention the patriarch of the Bush family, whose name escapes me, but who was certainly an unabashed Hitler supporter. I'm quite sure that the political systems of Britain and the US are closely enough linked to pretty much disallow stone throwing.

Jeebizz

JFK: "Ich bin ein Berliner" Translation... "I am a jelly-donut"

pinniped

Mmmm ... berliners - yum - I still have no idea how it was ever translated as "jelly donut" though - it must have been translated by someone who never saw a berliner. I'll still go for crepes, croissants, and snails though - the French have much better food.

Of course being a fascist state, we didn't really oppose big business making money by selling things to the Germans (with the exception of helium). Why, these days we still sell weapons to dubious countries. It's even better when we sell to factions on both sides of a war; it ensures enough profits to make substantial campaign contributions to McBama. But the big thing about the second world war was that we didn't like the Germans telling us what to do when we visited France, not to mention those glow-in-the-dark uniforms were scaring the kids. No one tells us what to do, and no normal person wears glow-in-the-dark costumes except on Halloween.

Jeebizz

Yes but 'Berliner' is a jelly donut, but his intention was to say that he was a 'citizen of Berlin', but Berliner in German means Jelly Donut.

brianL

Prescott Bush.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...ascistcoup.htm

H_TeXMeX_H

What about Commies ? Stalin killed way more people than Hitler, why not blame some things on Stalin and the Commies ? I'm sure many presidents supported them.

I think the only real difference between forms of government other than their name is the degree of openness as to how much they steal your money, oppress you, destroy you. It's bad to be like Hitler and Stalin that openly kill and steal money and oppress, it's good to be like ... who do it behind your back, in secret without most people ever realizing it. One type can be measured and tallied, the other cannot, but overall it's equal at best.

brianL

Yes, agreed. Communism and Fascism are equally bad, but pseudo-democracies are a close second.

thorn168

The monotheistic myth of the benevolent dictator is what is leading people world wide to seek out or create a benevolent dictator to follow.

Its the stories we make and the way in which we communicate them that determine the culture and societies that we live in. There is the Ideal and then there is the Real, unfortunately, the Ideal rarely if ever is Real.

The Media outlets of the Multinational corporations have been setting the agendas world wide for about 60 years now. Why they want to preside over the end of the world is a mystery to me...perhaps they all worship Satan or something evil like that and seek to destroy all mankind forever.

trickykid

Simply put: You're voting for the "Best of the Worst". That includes the Independents, Green Party, Libertarian, etc.

Here's how you should vote a) Vote for Obama to keep McCain from becoming President so he make matters worse than they already are or b) If you live in a Red State and you're not Republican or even if you are, vote for anyone but McCain or Obama so McCain doesn't get elected or the votes.

Anyone but McCain '08. You have the power to not vote for the obvious mistake as President this year!

H_TeXMeX_H

My money's on McCain, he's gonna win for sure.

trickykid

Nah, let me be the first to say Obama is going to win with by a landslide victory.

McCain is out of ideas, so his only way of winning (which doesn't seem to be working very well so far) is to use smear fearing tactics while Obama is at least trying to point out his way to pull us out of the mess we're currently in. I'll vote for the guy who can actually look his opponent in the eye during a debate and is at least proposing his ideas, right or wrong. No president is perfect, but at least vote for the person who seems to sincerely try and come up with ideas and solutions instead of spreading FUD about their opponent.

I know die hard Republicans that aren't even going to vote for McShame, they'll go third party before electing this clown into office.

thorn168

I am voting for the Green Party in a bid to add a third party to American politics. The 2 party system is just plain broken.

rickh

The Green Party candidate is McKinney. That's going a bit far even to make a statement. The only third Parties on all the ballots are Green and Libertarian. Apparently somebody got to them since they both have selected stark raving mad candidates. Nevertheless, I say vote for someone you believe in ... party be damned. I'm a conservative so my choice is Baldwin. Liberals should pick Nader, who has over a long term established his honesty and independence from the rich and the powerful.

McBama sucks in every way. Trying to justify lesser evils within the two-headed War Party is a fool's errand, a sucker's dream. There is no difference. It does, of course make a difference to them. They are so close to the seat of ultimate power, that they have succumbed to the mental disease that corrupts absolutely. Must be a big shock when such a person gets elected and discovers that he still has to ask his handlers for permission to do anything.