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Old 06-01-2012, 02:22 AM   #16
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Screwbuntu?
 
Old 06-01-2012, 02:32 AM   #17
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<<given all the other pointless respins like edubuntu and xubuntu, you appear to be doing exactly the same thing as them name wise.>>
I strongly disagree about the use of "pointelss respins". I am using xubuntu after finding that I do not like unity and find that Xubuntu is a very usable and likeable respin, which is lightweight and fast also. I do not know about Fuduntu as I have not yet used it, but I feel that it could have been named better - anything other than *buntu, which makes it sound like another variety of ubuntu. It is not even based on debian.
 
Old 06-01-2012, 02:34 AM   #18
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<<given all the other pointless respins like edubuntu and xubuntu, you appear to be doing exactly the same thing as them name wise.>>
I strongly disagree about the use of "pointelss respins". I am using xubuntu after finding that I do not like unity and find that Xubuntu is a very usable and likeable respin, which is lightweight and fast also. I do not know about Fuduntu as I have not yet used it, but I feel that it could have been named better - anything other than *buntu, which makes it sound like another variety of ubuntu. It is not even based on debian.
There's no no "b" in the name!!! it's a "d", the curvy bit is totally on the other side of the sticky uppy bit! It's so clearly not related to ubuntu!! ;-)
 
Old 06-01-2012, 03:11 AM   #19
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Ouch! Too much negativity. You're a good sport fewt.
Constructive criticism != negativity

The name is extremely misleading. I immediately dismissed this distro too, thinking "not another Ubuntu desktop with a different wallpaper".

While I do think names should be unimportant, rightly or wrongly they can also give off a 1st impression. Sadly the name Fuduntu doesn't offer up a blank canvas - people hear the name and instantly draw the wrong conclusions. This can only harm the distro in the long run.

So while it would sound negative with all these commentators stating their discontent over the name, these are the people who actually hung about long enough to query it. What about those that haven't posted? The people who read the name then clicked away; dismissing this distro entirely? At least those of use who have posted "negative" remarks have stuck around long enough to have the Ubuntu-remix myth dispelled.

At the end of the day, it's up to the devs what they name their distro. But I'd like to think they would at least listen to the feedback from the community - be it good and bad - even if they decide they still prefer their original decision.

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We know, our webmaster should be re-working [the flash gallery] but life has gotten in the way. We ship flash with the distribution though, so not a terrible problem really.
The fact you ship Flash is irrelevant as most of the people viewing the gallery would be users not currently running Fuduntu. After all, why view a gallery for screenshots of a desktop you've already got on running on your desktop?

However I sympathise with his issue of time. There's never enough hours in the day

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Old 06-01-2012, 04:50 AM   #20
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Hi all,

First : keep fuduntu rolling!
Second, while I admit that I still haven't got around to trying fuduntu, I really love the concept of rolling release distros, a big +1 for me (I run Chakra, archlinux and Gentoo). The fact that it runs gnome2 may be very appealing to some users (I'm a KDE user, but I promise I'll try it out!).
One more question : do you plan to upgrade to gnome3 at some point? Because IMO maintaining gnome2 will become a giant PITA in the future.

fewt, please don't be discouraged by the posts here, they are mostly due to the fact that there is precious little info about your distro and its specificities.
The point has been made :
  • you're not a respin of *buntu
  • you are arolling release
  • based off fedora (or do you only use its package management?)
  • making a great user experience using gnome2

@DevilFreeBSD : that was unnecessary and uncalled for.

Serafean

PS : i too sympathise with the time issue...
 
Old 06-01-2012, 07:24 AM   #21
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Naming Fuduntu 'Fuduntu' is my decision, and not up for debate. Those that dislike the name are welcome to not use it. No offense intended, that is just the final ruling on the subject so we can move on to constructive discussion.
 
Old 06-01-2012, 08:25 AM   #22
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I checked out the web-site. I realise and sympathise with the time needed to put things together, but at the moment the home page is a deterrent to would-be users. The only information is that it is a rolling release and that the OS will extend battery life. The second part is a good selling point, ... for laptops. Other than that, this is what I saw: Home | Download | Support | Donate. With no information, neither explaining the name nor details of the system, most people will not give it a try. "Fuduntu is a lighthearted and fun Linux distribution!" will not convince most people. The impression most people will get from the home page is that Fubuntu is yet another *buntu, albeit with better battery performance. Hopefully, when the site is completed it will do your OS a better service. For now, it is a good starting point.

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What's your selling point? Advantages over other distros...

Stability, a traditional desktop, battery life, and performance.
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Yep, we are a rolling release.
A stable rolling release? I wish you the best of luck with that endeavour.

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I understand the name is not up for debate, and it is a pity. You do not realise how much you are hurting yourself with that decision.
And you do realise that Canonical has a trade mark on buntu? And that any product related to computers may only use buntu in the name with Canonical's permission?
 
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Old 06-01-2012, 08:54 AM   #23
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A stable rolling release? I wish you the best of luck with that endeavour.
It has worked for the past year or so with no problems like Arch occasionally experiences. (I recall the Xorg update that caused major system breakage.)

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I understand the name is not up for debate, and it is a pity. You do not realise how much you are hurting yourself with that decision.
And you do realise that Canonical has a trade mark on buntu? And that any product related to computers may only use buntu in the name with Canonical's permission?
No, it is you that do not realize what our name has done for us and means to us. Changing the name of the distribution this late (2 years in) would spell death for us.

And Canonical's trademarks mean nothing to us because we are not in violation of their trademark.
 
Old 06-01-2012, 08:57 AM   #24
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I understand the name is not up for debate, and it is a pity. You do not realise how much you are hurting yourself with that decision.
And you do realise that Canonical has a trade mark on buntu? And that any product related to computers may only use buntu in the name with Canonical's permission?
there is no buntu in the name, read it again : "fuduntu"

Stable rolling releases are possible, albeit hard. If I wasn't running testing using archlinux and chakra, I suppose life would be a lot easier but hey, someone has to catch the issues... The ugliest thing to update is alwways libpng, screws up everything.
OTOH gentoo has always been very stable for me. This to say that rolling releases are possible to be stable. The only thing I have no idea about is how the rpm package format will scale to your requirements.

Serafean

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Old 06-01-2012, 08:57 AM   #25
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I understand the name is not up for debate, and it is a pity. You do not realise how much you are hurting yourself with that decision.
And you do realise that Canonical has a trade mark on buntu? And that any product related to computers may only use buntu in the name with Canonical's permission?
I'm sorry, but you needed to stop after your first two sentences. You realize this distro does not end in "buntu," right? As said, the name is not up to debate, so you can say that's a pity, but you sound like a fool making what appear to be menacing statements in an effort to open up a debate about the name based on information that does not apply to the name.
Again, I am sorry, but I felt this point must once again be emphasized.
 
Old 06-01-2012, 09:07 AM   #26
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Beating a dead horse, people. Fuduntu is doing just fine (#21 on Distrowatch) with the current name.
 
Old 06-01-2012, 09:15 AM   #27
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I offered feedback; some good points that the OS can grow on and some bad that are, and will continue to, be a hindrance. If that makes me a fool, so be it. I am almost as much of a fool as people who want feedback, but insult anyone who who dares say things are not perfect.

And I am glad you mentioned the distribution is two years old. I wish I had known that before writing the home page is a good starting point. Two years and that is all there is? Real professional.

No wonder you want all us fools out there to mistakenly associate you with Ubuntu.
At least I learned a lesson. Do not offer constructive criticism to anyone on this forum.
 
Old 06-01-2012, 10:04 AM   #28
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I don't mind the name...what I DO mind is not having MATE supported...
 
Old 06-01-2012, 10:24 AM   #29
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I don't mind the name...what I DO mind is not having MATE supported...
MATE is supported just fine by these wonderful people: http://mate-desktop.org/

Or are you saying that you think Fuduntu should drop the default desktop environment that defines the project, in favor of your own personal favorite?
 
Old 06-01-2012, 11:06 AM   #30
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MATE is supported just fine by these wonderful people: http://mate-desktop.org/

Or are you saying that you think Fuduntu should drop the default desktop environment that defines the project, in favor of your own personal favorite?
I don't think I mentioned in my post where it should "drop" anything?

What I'm implying is that it should be a choice.

Fuduntu can keep Gnome2 - but I would like the option to be able to drop into a shell and run...

Code:
yum -y groupinstall "MATE-Desktop"
...without having to add any 3rd party repositories.

One of the many reasons why I like Linux Mint is...I am given many choices without having to install 3rd party repos.

I've been looking for more of a "longer term" Fedora based Distro since I'm really more of a Red Hat guy...but I need something more stable than Fedora (since I don't feel like re-installing my OS on my laptop every 6 months)....which is another reason I like mint Mint...the LTS releases.

Then I guess which leads me to think..."If Mint works so well for me...why do I need to change?"

I guess if I'm looking for a Fedora/RedHat based OS but like Mint I can just put Fuduntu on a VM...but at that point I should just install Fedora.

-C
 
  


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