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Old 08-26-2009, 05:41 PM   #1
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How to install Phedora Core on a Laptop and where to get it from?


Hi,

I would like to install phelora core on my HP G60 Notebook.

Where can I get a free copy of phedora and what version can I install?

Also, I have Windows vista running, how do I make dual boot on my laptop with phedora core?

Please help me.

thanks
Shaloo
 
Old 08-26-2009, 07:16 PM   #2
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Hi, Welcome to LQ!

LQ has a fantastic search function that may save you time waiting for an answer to a popular question.

With over 3 million posts to search it's possible the answer has been given.

Google is your friend. (dual boot vista and linux)
http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vi...lled_first.htm
you can get the iso here....
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/Download

the i386 is for 32bit cpu's
the x86_64 is for 64bit cpu's
the ppc is for apple mac's.

Get the latest stable version you can (fc11), this will have the most recent updates and kernel release.

<edit>
When it comes to partitioning, Make a /home as well as /(root)

If you change Linux (in the future) you won't have to format /home (a new install and upgrades recommend formatting /(root) partition, if /home is on the same partition as /(root) it will be lost (All your private stuff)).
</edit>

cheers Glenn

Last edited by GlennsPref; 08-26-2009 at 07:32 PM. Reason: partition advise
 
Old 08-26-2009, 08:15 PM   #3
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You want Fedora----"Phedora" was a Greek goddess of something........

Have you tried the Fedora website?

Also, check out http://distrowatch.com and search here for articles on dual-booting. The links below in my sig might also help.
 
Old 08-26-2009, 08:17 PM   #4
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http://www.babynamesfamily.com/meani...e_Phedora.html

(I got the Greek part right....:
 
Old 08-27-2009, 12:54 PM   #5
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Thanks so much, your message is so helpful

Glenn,

Your message is informative, I have started downloading it already, let's see how far I go.

Thanks again for your time and help.

Sincerely,
Shaloo

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Originally Posted by GlennsPref View Post
Hi, Welcome to LQ!

LQ has a fantastic search function that may save you time waiting for an answer to a popular question.

With over 3 million posts to search it's possible the answer has been given.

Google is your friend. (dual boot vista and linux)
http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vi...lled_first.htm
you can get the iso here....
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/Download

the i386 is for 32bit cpu's
the x86_64 is for 64bit cpu's
the ppc is for apple mac's.

Get the latest stable version you can (fc11), this will have the most recent updates and kernel release.

<edit>
When it comes to partitioning, Make a /home as well as /(root)

If you change Linux (in the future) you won't have to format /home (a new install and upgrades recommend formatting /(root) partition, if /home is on the same partition as /(root) it will be lost (All your private stuff)).
</edit>

cheers Glenn
 
Old 08-27-2009, 05:01 PM   #6
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Need help with Fedora

Glen,

After partitioning. I am downloading Fedora 11 from /pub/fedora/linux/releases/11/Fedora/i386/iso
to an external hard drive. I need clarification on few things:
1. Do I download all the files from this directiory or just the
Fedora-11-i386-DVD.iso

Parent Directory -
Fedora-11-i386-CHECKSUM 04-Jun-2009 14:20 1.6K
Fedora-11-i386-DVD.iso 02-Jun-2009 15:07 3.4G
Fedora-11-i386-disc1.iso 02-Jun-2009 15:14 694M
Fedora-11-i386-disc2.iso 02-Jun-2009 15:15 691M
Fedora-11-i386-disc3.iso 02-Jun-2009 15:15 688M
Fedora-11-i386-disc4.iso 02-Jun-2009 15:16 695M
Fedora-11-i386-disc5.iso 02-Jun-2009 15:16 685M
Fedora-11-i386-disc6.iso 02-Jun-2009 15:16 62M
Fedora-11-i386-netinst.iso 02-Jun-2009 15:04 177M

2. How do I boot from my external drive? What I should run to make it bootable?

3. What command do I run to install these files as a dual boot on laptop.

I apologize for asking such questions but I have been reading on the internet and I am not getting clear understanding.

Thanks.

Shaloo


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Glenn,

Your message is informative, I have started downloading it already, let's see how far I go.

Thanks again for your time and help.

Sincerely,
Shaloo
 
Old 08-28-2009, 12:05 PM   #7
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Hi Shaloo, you'll need to burn the dvd .iso as an image, which should make the dvd bootable.

The fedora install program will give you the options you ask about, including partitioning. They (the developers) are very careful about getting windows users to adopt GNU/Linux without trashing your win install.

You'll only need the dvd version, all the rest (cd-roms) are included on it.

It won't hurt to get the checksum (Fedora-11-i386-CHECKSUM 04-Jun-2009 14:20 1.6K),

you can look that up (checksum.exe?) to see if the checksum of the dvd matches the file before you burn it to disk. (save some headaches, maybe)

Once you have burned the dvd to dvd-rom, you should be able to browse the cd with window$.

If you can browse, (look at the files it contains) it should be bootable.

Now it's just a matter of selecting the dvd to boot when your computer starts (re-starts).

Sorry I have taken so long to respond, I have been off-line.

Regards Glenn

ps. linux install will also require a swap partition.

Generally, the swap is about the same size as your installed ram.

The /(root) will only need less than 15 to 20Gb, use the rest for home, this is where you will be able to store downloaded and personal files.

As long as you remember that window$ is on the first partition of the first harddrive (hda1 pata, or sda1 for sata), you should be fine.

The install program should give you the option to partition the drive as the install process proceeds. They really have come a long way, it's almost fool proof.

At the end, you should get a new boot menu when your computer starts, with the option of window$ (proceeds to the same old windows boot menu next) or fedora (you'll love it!).

Last edited by GlennsPref; 08-28-2009 at 12:20 PM. Reason: At the end, you should get a new boot menu
 
Old 08-28-2009, 03:56 PM   #8
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Thumbs up Fedora installed

Glenn,

Thanks so much for getting back to me. I was able to go ahead and install Fedora 11 on my laptop. But I let the system do the partition. Should I try to re-install it again? Also, it does not ask me to boot from windows or fedora. I just press the space bar a few times and than I can toggle Between the two. I wish I had done what you are suggesting. I did do the dual partition setup before starting the install by shrinking my hard drive.

Now I want to access the web from my Fedora os, I checked in /var/www/http but nothing is there. Than I started httpd service also but nothing worked. I don't know how to set my firewall or the internet connection. All I need to do is setup web access on my server.

Thanks.
Sincerely,

Shaloo

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Originally Posted by GlennsPref View Post
Hi Shaloo, you'll need to burn the dvd .iso as an image, which should make the dvd bootable.

The fedora install program will give you the options you ask about, including partitioning. They (the developers) are very careful about getting windows users to adopt GNU/Linux without trashing your win install.

You'll only need the dvd version, all the rest (cd-roms) are included on it.

It won't hurt to get the checksum (Fedora-11-i386-CHECKSUM 04-Jun-2009 14:20 1.6K),

you can look that up (checksum.exe?) to see if the checksum of the dvd matches the file before you burn it to disk. (save some headaches, maybe)

Once you have burned the dvd to dvd-rom, you should be able to browse the cd with window$.

If you can browse, (look at the files it contains) it should be bootable.

Now it's just a matter of selecting the dvd to boot when your computer starts (re-starts).

Sorry I have taken so long to respond, I have been off-line.

Regards Glenn

ps. linux install will also require a swap partition.

Generally, the swap is about the same size as your installed ram.

The /(root) will only need less than 15 to 20Gb, use the rest for home, this is where you will be able to store downloaded and personal files.

As long as you remember that window$ is on the first partition of the first harddrive (hda1 pata, or sda1 for sata), you should be fine.

The install program should give you the option to partition the drive as the install process proceeds. They really have come a long way, it's almost fool proof.

At the end, you should get a new boot menu when your computer starts, with the option of window$ (proceeds to the same old windows boot menu next) or fedora (you'll love it!).
 
Old 08-28-2009, 07:39 PM   #9
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Setting up web access is a whole other question, but I'll do my best here.

btw, I use Mandriva, so the applications may be different.

OK, to setup web browsing with firefox and konqueror (kde)....

when in window$, go to start, run, type cmd.

When the dos window comes up, type....

ipconfig

note down the ip addresses.

In GNU/Linux the same information is gained by....

ifconfig
Code:
glenn@GamesBox:~$ ifconfig                                                         (29-08 09:47)
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr zz.zz.zz.zz.zz...(MAC address omitted for security, Glenn)
          inet addr:192.168.0.2  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
          Interrupt:28 Base address:0x4000

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:6084 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:6084 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
          RX bytes:3834998 (3.6 MiB)  TX bytes:3834998 (3.6 MiB)

ppp0      Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
          inet addr:120.19.223.70  P-t-P:10.64.64.64  Mask:255.255.255.255
          UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:3347 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:3007 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:3
          RX bytes:3182645 (3.0 MiB)  TX bytes:499301 (487.5 KiB)
You might also try...
with window$
netstat /an

In GNU/Linux the same information is gained by....
netstat -an

But only the top portion (10 to 20 lines, you'll see the change in format ) is useful here.

When you next boot GNU/Linux Fedora, go to the system tools and find the network settings.

see how you go.

The firewall should be already running, iptables is the script,

there may be a gui for it like shorewall, check the Fedora admin tools, security.

Before you change anything, you can see how it's working using...

shields-up, at http://www.grc.com/intro.htm (Gibson research) It can check your firewall's activity on common ports. (All Service Ports)
Quote:
The Internet's quickest, most popular, reliable and trusted, free Internet security checkup and information service. And now in its Port Authority Edition, it's also the most powerful and complete. Check your system here, and begin learning about using the Internet safely.
"Determine the status of your system's first 1056 ports"
It should be stealth. GNU/Linux is secure by default!

As far as the partitioning goes, Next time try the manual way, but you'll only have to split /(root)

because the swap will be there already. It can

(and will if you upgrade or try a different distribution later)

save you a lot of dramas later.

I have a separate partition for /var/www (and quite a few others, but that's a different story)

/var/www/http is a system dir, you won't access it directly on a normal basis, only during setup of particular programs.

This dir (/var/www/http, and httpd) is used by the apache web server.

To access the web, use a web browser directly, as you would in window$.

If you need to access the server box for outside, you'll need to look (search) for it.

The Fedora page @LQ will help.

One useful web page I have found very useful, and upto date....

http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/

There are a plethora of howto's and tutes out there, check ....

Useful commands and explanations....
http://www.perpetualpc.net/srtd_commands_rev.html#m

Wizard boot camp articles by Jerry Peek....to become a GNU/Linux guru!
http://www.jpeek.com/articles/linux_magazine.html

http://www.makelinux.net/reference

Linux Admin Guide
http://linux-newbie.dotsrc.org/

Linux Documentation Project....
http://tldp.org/
http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html

IBM....
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/training/


see how you go.

Regards Glenn

Last edited by GlennsPref; 08-28-2009 at 07:45 PM.
 
Old 08-28-2009, 10:48 PM   #10
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Thumbs up Thanks

Glenn,

I can not thank you enough for all the information you have given me. Thanks for sharing your knowledge, I will always be indebted to you. I will try it and now I feel confident that it will work.

Thanks again.

Sincerely,
Shaloo

Quote:
Originally Posted by GlennsPref View Post
Setting up web access is a whole other question, but I'll do my best here.

btw, I use Mandriva, so the applications may be different.

OK, to setup web browsing with firefox and konqueror (kde)....

when in window$, go to start, run, type cmd.

When the dos window comes up, type....

ipconfig

note down the ip addresses.

In GNU/Linux the same information is gained by....

ifconfig
Code:
glenn@GamesBox:~$ ifconfig                                                         (29-08 09:47)
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr zz.zz.zz.zz.zz...(MAC address omitted for security, Glenn)
          inet addr:192.168.0.2  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
          Interrupt:28 Base address:0x4000

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:6084 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:6084 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
          RX bytes:3834998 (3.6 MiB)  TX bytes:3834998 (3.6 MiB)

ppp0      Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
          inet addr:120.19.223.70  P-t-P:10.64.64.64  Mask:255.255.255.255
          UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:3347 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:3007 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:3
          RX bytes:3182645 (3.0 MiB)  TX bytes:499301 (487.5 KiB)
You might also try...
with window$
netstat /an

In GNU/Linux the same information is gained by....
netstat -an

But only the top portion (10 to 20 lines, you'll see the change in format ) is useful here.

When you next boot GNU/Linux Fedora, go to the system tools and find the network settings.

see how you go.

The firewall should be already running, iptables is the script,

there may be a gui for it like shorewall, check the Fedora admin tools, security.

Before you change anything, you can see how it's working using...

shields-up, at http://www.grc.com/intro.htm (Gibson research) It can check your firewall's activity on common ports. (All Service Ports)


It should be stealth. GNU/Linux is secure by default!

As far as the partitioning goes, Next time try the manual way, but you'll only have to split /(root)

because the swap will be there already. It can

(and will if you upgrade or try a different distribution later)

save you a lot of dramas later.

I have a separate partition for /var/www (and quite a few others, but that's a different story)

/var/www/http is a system dir, you won't access it directly on a normal basis, only during setup of particular programs.

This dir (/var/www/http, and httpd) is used by the apache web server.

To access the web, use a web browser directly, as you would in window$.

If you need to access the server box for outside, you'll need to look (search) for it.

The Fedora page @LQ will help.

One useful web page I have found very useful, and upto date....

http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/

There are a plethora of howto's and tutes out there, check ....

Useful commands and explanations....
http://www.perpetualpc.net/srtd_commands_rev.html#m

Wizard boot camp articles by Jerry Peek....to become a GNU/Linux guru!
http://www.jpeek.com/articles/linux_magazine.html

http://www.makelinux.net/reference

Linux Admin Guide
http://linux-newbie.dotsrc.org/

Linux Documentation Project....
http://tldp.org/
http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html

IBM....
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/training/


see how you go.

Regards Glenn
 
Old 08-29-2009, 12:39 AM   #11
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You're welcome!

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