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Old 04-01-2006, 11:04 AM   #1
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Question Getting black screen when FC5 x86-64 graphical installler starts X on my laptop


Hi folks,

I have a problem trying to install Fedora Core 5 x86-64 on my Acer Ferrari laptop. I am a newbie when it comes to installing linux, so forgive me if I have not exhausted all options before posting in this forum.

I downloaded the FC5 x86-64 DVD, booted from it, and started the graphical installation after the Media checker verified that my DVD was OK. When the installer is about to load the graphics (starting X server), the screen goes black and I can neither see nor do anything. Here are more details of my system:

Acer Ferrari 4005 laptop
AMD Turion 64 Mobile, 2.0 GHz
1 GB RAM
ATI Mobility Radeon X700 Graphics adapter

Do any of you know what may be causing this problem? Is it that some of my hardware is not compatible with the version of X that is being used?

I have not tried the text installer yet - it might or might not work. However, I am woried that doing this will simply postpone my problems. What do you think?

I've seen similar problem descriptions other places on the web, and some suggest using the i386 version of FC5 instead. Is this something you would recommend? Do I risk running into any potential problems compared to the x86-64 version?

Do you know of some other work-around I can use? Some installation options or whatever?

Or should I try some other linux distribution?

Any help is appreciated - thank you!
 
Old 04-01-2006, 03:29 PM   #2
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Install in text mode, but before you do you might want to have a look at some of the similat threads below.

Also see; http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs/FC5Common
 
Old 04-04-2006, 04:13 PM   #3
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Thumbs up Solution: "linux vesa" at install boot prompt

I searched around the forums a bit longer, and finally found a solution that worked for me:

Typing "linux vesa" (without the quotes) at the install boot prompt solved the entire problem, meaning I was able to use the graphical installer after all

After the installation, a wizard guided me through some settings, including changing monitor type and resolution (up to 1680x1050, from 1024x768 or whatever it was during install). I'm not sure yet whether I'm using some ATI driver or Vesa, I'll have to check on that.
 
Old 04-11-2006, 03:02 PM   #4
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I have a similar problem. When I install FC5 x86-64 from the CDs, everything seems to go ok. At the end of the install process, I enter in my user name & password. After this, I get a blank screen instead of the the login screen and can't get past it.

Here are more details of my system:
Dell PowerEdge 1800
Dual Xeon, 2.6 Gig Processors
ATI Radeon 7000/VE onboard video
Multi boot FC4, WinXP, WinXP64

Can you please let me know where you found the details for your fix.

Thanks
 
Old 04-15-2006, 08:02 PM   #5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulH
Can you please let me know where you found the details for your fix.
I found the tip that worked for me at another forum site, forums.fedoraforum.org.

LinuxQuestions.org will not let me post the complete URL until I have posted at least 3 messages... So, as a work-around, here's the last part of the url, just add it to the server url above:

/showthread.php?p=501180

Not any more details there, though. You may have to ask the person who posted the tip in that forum. Were you able to install using the graphical installer? In that case it seems that your problem is slightly different than mine, and the above mentioned solution may not work...

I suspect some tweaking of xorg.conf is needed, but I'm not sure.
 
Old 04-18-2006, 06:18 AM   #6
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Hi,
I have a comparable problem. When I start the DVD on which I have burned the .iso image, The screen (LCD) turns black with a little window telling me "out of sync" apparently some weird frequency is sent to my video-card (Nvidia) as my LCD (imax LN17N) has normal input ranges (H-frq: 31-81 KHz, V-frq: 56-75 Hz) max. res. 1280*1075@75Hz.
Ok, I can install in textmode - and completed it. However, the whole X software is not loaded, therefore graphical use is impossible.
I had one little problem that the DVD gave read errors in on rather old DVD reader but was read without an error (checked before installing) and FC5 is running on the system (AMD64 3200).
The problem is that the X directory is destroyed and the older FC4 versions won't run X either (luckily I have an FC3 on another partition that runs OK).
A I would like to install the X software as I want to work graphical again.
B The problem with LCD-screens in installing Fedora is a big problem. I don't think that using linux-vesa to start is a good solution and I will pose the question also in the fedora-forum as I think it a bug in the istallation process. At least VGA resolution (360x480) of 800x600 must be routinely be available, or (as in Suse) the resolution choosen ahen startin the installation process.
Joep
 
Old 05-16-2006, 03:58 PM   #7
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Hi,
For installing FC5 on machine with ATI graphics, you need to use vesa driver. After that you can install new driver from fedora update server:
download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/5/x86_64/xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.5.8.0-1.x86_64.rpm
 
Old 05-17-2006, 07:26 AM   #8
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Netke,
Once you applied the new rpm, did you change the driver from vesa to something else (e.g., ati, fglrx, radeon)?

I have already applied this rpm but the vesa driver is still being used. I can get greater than 800x600 resolution however, I cannot run a 3D graphics application.
 
Old 05-17-2006, 09:08 AM   #9
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Netke,
Thanks for your reply.
I have discovered that that works. However, my video is not ATI but Nvidea.
In my opinion it's a bug with the Fedora installer. When I install e.g. an Ubuntu version
(recently Breezer) it has no problems with the graphical interface. I don't know, however how
to raise a bugreport with Fedora (I haven't found anything in bugzilla).
Joep
 
Old 05-17-2006, 09:13 AM   #10
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Paul,
You have to install the driver in the correct source directory ( first load the module
with modprobe and test if it works) and then change /etc/modprobe.conf accordingly.
(look in : man modprobe.conf).
Joep
 
Old 05-19-2006, 07:10 AM   #11
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First I have heard of modprobe. I ran modprobe -l. I see the fglrx module and where it is located. Where is it supposed to be located?
 
Old 05-19-2006, 08:13 AM   #12
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If you want to see the installed modules do an lsmod.
If the nvidia module isn't visible install it with "modprobe nvidia".
If you then restart your X-server, it should use the nvidia driver.
Be sure yout kernelversion has the nvidia driver installed
(do a locate nvidia.ko and uname -a to see if the current kernel
and the /usr/src/kernel-name-directory/ of the locate command match).
Joep
 
Old 05-20-2006, 08:54 AM   #13
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Joep,

Thanks for the response. I see you have an nvidia card and I think that explains my dilemma. I am using an ati card. I have been unable to get the driver to work on FC5, x86_64. From other posts I've seen it is a problem others are having too. I currently use the vesa driver but cannot get 3D.

Paul
 
  


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