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Old 07-17-2014, 02:43 PM   #1
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Upgrade of Fedora 17 to 18 fails


I'm trying to upgrade my EeePC from Fedora 17 to 18. No matter which way (fedup, yum, fedora-upgrade) I choose, all of them fail due to a dependency problem with the xorg intel driver.

With yum, I receive the following message from
Code:
yum --releasever=18 --disableplugin=presto distro-sync
:

Quote:
Error: package: xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.19.0-1.fc17.x86_64 (@fedora/17)
Requires: xserver-abi(videodrv-12) >=0
Removing: xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.12.4-7.fc17.x86_64 (@fedora/17)
xserver-abi(videodrv-12) = 1
Updated By: xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.13.3-3.fc18.x86_64 (updates)
Not found

Error: Package: xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.19.0-1.fc17.x86_64 (@fedora/17)
Requires: libudev.so.0()(64bit)
Removing: libudev-182-3.fc17.x86_64 (@updates/17)
libudev.so.0()(64bit)
Obsoleted By: systemd-libs-201-2.fc18.9.x86_4 (updates)
Not found
When upgrading with fedup, I end up with a running system that cannot start gdm. In F18 console, yum displays the intel driver from F17 and doesn't display any possible update. Xorg log shows that it cannot load the module intel because of the missing dependency library libudev.so.0.

I am entirely clueless and haven't found any solution to this specific problem.

Has anybody experienced this? Is there anything I can do to upgrade the F17?

Thanks.

Last edited by w359; 07-17-2014 at 02:46 PM. Reason: quoted error message
 
Old 07-17-2014, 03:45 PM   #2
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fedora 18 is unsupported

please download the fedora 20 install dvd
and do a new clean install with fedora 20

then in a few months ( September) install fedora 21

there have been way too many changes to fedora for upgrading to work from fedora 17
 
Old 07-18-2014, 12:33 AM   #3
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That surely doesn't mean that an upgrade is not possible - it must have been possible in the past, hasn't it?

If your answer is the only one I get, then my next installation won't be a Fedora.
 
Old 07-18-2014, 12:47 AM   #4
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It might have been possible in the past when both F17 and F18 were supported. Note I said "might".
Sometimes upgrades work, sometimes not - for all distros, but Fedora is a particularly active environment. Even if you were of a disposition to stay current, clean installs is usually a better bet.

Threatening to leave Fedora will influence no-one. Least of all the Fedora devs were they inclined to pass this way.
 
Old 07-18-2014, 01:59 AM   #5
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I apologize if it came across as a threat - it was just an illustration of how making a basic request impossible will drive away your user, customers, audience, etc.
It was also a fact, as I'm already in the process of evaluating a different Redhat-based distro that provides seamless upgrade (i.e. not a clean install) and a lightweight dektop environment suitable for a java developer.

Thanks.
 
Old 07-18-2014, 02:07 AM   #6
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it was just an illustration of how making a basic request impossible will drive away your user, customers, audience, etc.
Oh yeah, well known. In the past I've walked away from Redhat (before Fedora) and Fedora because they've pissed me off - and I'm also in the process of preparing to move again for my day-to-day (i.e. this) system.
No harm in trying something that may fit better.
 
Old 07-18-2014, 03:03 AM   #7
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I like fedora
fedora 4 to 11 were great for learning
after a few years i decided to get off the fedora roller coaster of NEW installs every 6 months
-- upgrades almost NEVER work well .

i now run OpenSUSE 13.1 and Scientific linux 6.5

fedora 19 and a few others on VM's



Fedora is well FEDORA !!!
except it for what it is
fedora IS fedora
it is not and NEVER!!!! will be RHEL or Debian stable

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Old 07-19-2014, 04:21 PM   #8
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It could be that the mirror it's syncing to is missing packages that it's expecting. As others have said, 18 is EOL'd, so not everything might be in place.

I would try running this first:
Code:
yum-complete-transaction
That probably won't do anything, so you can use the package-cleanup command and try to remove any old packages.
Code:
package-cleanup --leaves --all
Be aware that --leaves isn't particularly intelligent and may recommend removing software that is needed.
 
Old 07-19-2014, 04:46 PM   #9
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the problem with
"yum-complete-transaction"
and
"package-cleanup"

is that you had to have ALREADY installed "yum-utils"
that those programs are in
 
Old 07-19-2014, 04:55 PM   #10
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my next installation won't be a Fedora
dude...install a rollin distro!


this is very NICE : Manjaro

 
Old 08-02-2014, 03:30 PM   #11
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One way that I've used to upgrade from F(n) to F(n+1) when both are out of date and something (usually a piece of Xorg or a kernel) doesn't quite work is to:
1. boot into a working distro
2. head over to koji and start grabbing early versions of the non-working package(s) for F(n+1)
3. if F(n+1) is bootable, I reboot at this point. Otherwise, I chroot into it.
4. manually install the upgrade packages
5. if necessary, reboot F(n+1)
Sometimes it works; sometimes it doesn't. YMMV
 
  


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