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Old 12-18-2009, 05:40 PM   #1
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Opera 10.10 problems with Fedora 12


Hullo All,
Since upgrading to Fedora 12 I have been having crash reports almost every time I start Opera 10.10.
The bug reporting tool (ABRT) says that /usr/lib/operapluginwrapper-native has crashed.
Opera continues to work OK, so not sure if this has any real effect or not.
Opera 10.10 ran without any issues on Fedora 11, and it is the same package for F10,11 and 12, so I guess something is amiss with opera/F12 combination.
Anyone have any clues as to the cause/solution?

Cheers,
Terry
 
Old 12-20-2009, 04:14 AM   #2
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Opera installed how, tarball or RPM ? Qt3 or Qt4 ?? 32-bit or 64-bit ???

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Old 12-20-2009, 04:56 PM   #3
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Opera installed how, tarball or RPM ? Qt3 or Qt4 ?? 32-bit or 64-bit ???

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It is the rpm provided by opera for Fedora 10,11,12 using qt3, and 64 bit.
Sorry for not providing that info initially.

Cheers,
Terry
 
Old 01-17-2010, 07:55 PM   #4
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I download
opera-10.10.gcc4.shared.qt3.x86_64.rpm
form opera.com

To get opera working then I install Quanta.
I might be ok to dust install qt3.
 
Old 01-17-2010, 11:59 PM   #5
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I download
opera-10.10.gcc4.shared.qt3.x86_64.rpm
form opera.com

To get opera working then I install Quanta.
I might be ok to dust install qt3.
I have never had quanta installed, that I know of, and opera 10.10 is the first version that has caused a problem as I have reported.

Cheers,
Terry
 
Old 01-18-2010, 02:20 AM   #6
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Opera is neads qt from KDE 3. Now KDE is vertion 4.n.
 
Old 01-18-2010, 04:28 PM   #7
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Opera is neads qt from KDE 3. Now KDE is vertion 4.n.
Not sure I understand the significance of that.
I am running on gnome. Fedora 12 has both qt3 and qt4.
I believe this was the same in Fedora 11 and opera 10.10 was running without a problem.

Cheers,
Terry
 
Old 01-19-2010, 04:48 PM   #8
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Opera 10.10 is based on KDE version 3.
I have not found other solution than install some software that is based on KDE 3.
To install amarok which is KDE Version 4.3.4 does not help with opera.
Quanta ( kdewebdev) is based on KDE 3.n.n.
If Quanta is installed then it installs qt liberais which opera uses.
You can try to run opera from terminal and see what warnings come.

Install list for kdewebdev
Jan 11 20:48:06 Installed: qt3-3.3.8b-28.fc12.x86_64
Jan 11 20:48:06 Installed: libtidy-0.99.0-19.20070615.fc12.x86_64
Jan 11 20:48:07 Installed: tidy-0.99.0-19.20070615.fc12.x86_64
Jan 11 20:48:08 Installed: 1:audiofile-0.2.6-11.fc12.x86_64
Jan 11 20:48:10 Installed: 8:arts-1.5.10-11.fc12.x86_64
Jan 11 20:48:28 Installed: kdelibs3-3.5.10-21.fc12.x86_64
Jan 11 20:48:28 Installed: 6:kdewebdev-libs-3.5.10-4.fc12.x86_64
Jan 11 20:48:30 Installed: gnome-mime-data-2.18.0-5.fc12.noarch
Jan 11 20:48:55 Installed: 6:kdewebdev-3.5.10-4.fc12.x86_64
 
Old 01-20-2010, 12:49 AM   #9
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Opera 10.10 is based on KDE version 3.
I have not found other solution than install some software that is based on KDE 3.
To install amarok which is KDE Version 4.3.4 does not help with opera.
[snip]
Sorry if I appear a bit dense, but are you saying that installing the opera rpm doesn't pull in other depend packages that opera needs to run properly?
It is unusual for an rpm to install without requiring dependencies to be installed.
I can only repeat what I have said before, opera 10.10 ran quite well on fc11, I updated to fc12 and the operapluginwrapper-native now crashes each time opera is started.
In all the previous versions of opera and fedora I have always run gnome and never had to independently install other kde stuff, nor have I had any problems, so I am still a tad confused by your posting.
Thanks for trying to help, and maybe you are correct. Perhaps you could explain a little more?

Cheers,
Terry
 
Old 01-20-2010, 05:03 PM   #10
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I am afraid that mine understanding off the problem is almost similar to your understanding.
I know that opera is based on qt from Trolltech.
I have always use the easy way for me, that is in yumex serach for quanta and install.
You might want to try Opera 10.5 pre-alpha ( http://labs.opera.com/news/2009/12/22/).
I have not tyed it.
I have not found a good explanation or howto for fedora.

If you start opera from terminal what error do you get.


http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=213269
see #4
yum install qt3*

see
http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/206/
Linux and system requirements


The Standard C++ Library is required to run Opera for Linux. This library is a nightmare to statically link to a project. After some thought, we've decided that instead of linking it, we'd prefer to specify where it can be found. Most Linux distributions have it available. On Debian or Debian-based distributions you can install it by typing something like apt-get install libstdc++6. You can also get this library from most Linux vendors, or you can download and compile it from gcc.gnu.org/libstdc++/.


You also need to have an X11 implementation installed. If you download a package with Opera dynamically linked to Qt, read this article about dynamic Qt.
 
Old 01-20-2010, 09:32 PM   #11
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I am afraid that mine understanding off the problem is almost similar to your understanding.
[snip]
I'm sorry, but I think you have misunderstood my postings.
Let's leave it at that, and I'll put up with the problem until a there is a new release and see how that goes.

Cheers,
Terry
 
Old 01-22-2010, 12:04 AM   #12
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From the opera site, you have to click on Ubuntu and choose fedora, if you don't change Ubuntu into something else, you'd be downloading from ubuntu via debian. That's what I did and it ended up with an error. Make sure it's the correct version for your distro.

or

Click on "Show other options" and see if your operating system is there.

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I was reading an email from my relatives in Norway [The country which produces Nobel Peace prizes & the Opera web browser, among many more things] so that lead me to download Opera 10.10. Here are my options: Click on Ubuntu arrow and choose fedora & default package is clicked as "tar.gz"
http://www.opera.com/browser/download/
 
Old 01-22-2010, 01:11 AM   #13
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From the opera site, you have to click on Ubuntu and choose fedora, if you don't change Ubuntu into something else, you'd be downloading from ubuntu via debian. That's what I did and it ended up with an error. Make sure it's the correct version for your distro.
[snip]
Yes, I have been installing the correct Fedora version. Thanks for your help.

Cheers,
Terry
 
Old 02-16-2010, 01:13 PM   #14
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Hello terry-duell:

You might want to try the Qt4 rpm version of Opera-10.10: http://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/linux...nal/en/x86_64/

They do not advertise the Qt4 version(s), apparently because of some issues with Opera and Qt4, but the RPMs are available, and in your case, may perform better. I would suggest replacing the existing RPM with: opera-10.10.gcc4.qt4.x86_64.rpm (which may drag in new Qt4 deps, and orphan some Qt3 stuff).

Good Luck,
V
 
Old 02-16-2010, 05:27 PM   #15
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Hello terry-duell:

You might want to try the Qt4 rpm version of Opera-10.10: http://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/linux...nal/en/x86_64/

Good Luck,
V
I have installed that version, thanks.
It behaved exactly the same...or at least the bug reporting tool did.
Since a recent update to the bug reporting tool there have not been any more crash reports.
Maybe the problem was really with the bug reporting tool all along, I really don't know.
Opera 10.10 seems to be working OK in all respects.

Thanks for your advice.

Cheers,
Terry
 
  


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