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Old 04-26-2005, 11:44 AM   #16
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What can I say
 
Old 04-26-2005, 11:47 AM   #17
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I thought u wud mind...but u did not....

that's fine..
thankyou...
 
Old 04-26-2005, 02:17 PM   #18
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redhatrosh,
Your answer implies that we can, but it didn't definitively answer the question- it still leaves nagging questions in the reader's mind. In my 4 years experience with rpm distros, a fresh install is always preferred, as opposed to upgrading versions with an "upgrade" option. I realize this would only be updating newer versions of FC4, and not like going from FC3 to FC4, but I'm still wondering if this is a wise procedure in the case of FC4.

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Test versions are never exactly the same as the complete released product, but you can always change your apt and yum sources to point from the development version to the release version
What we need is a yes or no answer to the following question, and that should do it.

Can we go ahead and install test 2, then update to test 3 via apt or yum, then update test 3 to the final when it is released, and wind up with an installation identical to one that was installed from a fresh download of the final release cds?

If yes, I'll go ahead and get FC4 test 2 while I have a 500kn/sec connection,and do all the updating of version later at 30kb/sec.

Thanks for bearing with me on this- sorry if I'm too nitpicking, but I really want to replace Mandrake on my rpm distro box ASAP, and don't want to wait until June for FC4 final, at 30kb/sec.
 
Old 04-26-2005, 07:39 PM   #19
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Originally posted by redhatrosh
here's the answer for the question...



doing the job on behalf of reddazz...

(Sorry!)

.................
Ahhh, bonk, didn't see the forest through the trees. Thanks to everyone for all the help, and especially to redhatrosh.

I figure I'll wait until the production version of FC 4. While this thread has been growing, I've been re-downloading the FC3 .ISOs and I'm on the final disk now. So I might as well stick with something stable for the next month.
 
Old 04-26-2005, 07:45 PM   #20
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If yes, I'll go ahead and get FC4 test 2 while I have a 500kn/sec connection,and do all the updating of version later at 30kb/sec.
If you have the bandwidth to spare, why don't you download Fedora Core 3 and the test version of Fedora Core 4? That way you can install Fedora Core 4 Test 2 and if it implodes you can just install Fedora Core 3 instead. Best of both worlds, the new toy that may or may not work properly, and a stable backup without having to redownload anything!
 
Old 04-27-2005, 03:48 AM   #21
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let me enlighten you the forthcoming FC4 "production" release is not ment for "production" use! so test2 is a good option for me knowing what to expect any comments are welcome also July 6 is quite soon even if you have problems in one month they might be solved also in this one month updates will be available so relax
and for the need of availability why not use a second partition as a start ? but anyway mandrake seems useless for me... consider having one simple FC3 and FC4t2 on another partition but FC3 needs huge amount of updates to work kind of normal so in conclusion FC4t2DVD works better for me

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Old 04-28-2005, 04:43 PM   #22
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I just went ahead and got test 2, and did the custom install. It went uneventful, and I got all the updates from "development" with yum with no problems. I must say I'm pretty impressed, as nothing has gone weird so far, and it's a lot better than Mandrake 10.1.

A few things:

1. When I reformatted my old Mandrake partitions (/ and /home), there was no reiserfs option, and I had to use ext3. Is this by design in the test versions?

2. Gnome/Firefox seems really slow, but kde is a little better. I guess I need to check HD tweaks.

3. Couldn't get up2date to work, but yum did the trick, so no big deal.

Test 2 is definitely a few steps up from Mandrake 10.1, so I'm very pleased. My only worry is that I'll have to reformat my ext3 partitions when FC4 final comes out.
 
Old 04-28-2005, 05:50 PM   #23
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Its possible to install Fedora using Reiserfs, but I don't know the exact command. Redhat prefers ext3, but I don't know why they don't show the option for reiserfs for those that want to use it. I am installing FC4 test2 later on just to see what they are offering, so I'll let you know if I have the same problem with Up2date.
 
Old 04-28-2005, 09:14 PM   #24
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for reiserfs on FC

when u boot from the 1st CD to install
then at the boot prompt type this

linux reiserfs

the when u choose ur FS type inside u will get an option for reiserfs as well

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Old 04-28-2005, 11:21 PM   #25
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Thanks much masand,

Sure wish I'd have known this before installing test2. Was it somewhere in the F1, 2, 3 key pages at the beginning of the install? I must (in my haste) have missed it if it is. I don't have enough room on another partition to tar up / and /home, copy them to the other partition, and reformat, so I guess if I can't live with ext3 I'll have to reinstall and yum update again.

I'm starting to feel ext3 is partly the reason this install seems a bit sluggish. I recall years ago when I switched to reiserfs on a RH 7 install, the difference was remarkable. Of course I am used to Gentoo.
 
Old 04-28-2005, 11:24 PM   #26
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I'm quite sure Gnome is supposed to be faster then KDE maybe it's just loading less stuff in default config, but anyway how's firefox loading in KDE?
 
Old 04-29-2005, 01:06 AM   #27
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Quote:
Originally posted by masand
for reiserfs on FC

when u boot from the 1st CD to install
then at the boot prompt type this

linux reiserfs

the when u choose ur FS type inside u will get an option for reiserfs as well

regards
Thanks for that tip, I will try t the ext time I install Fedora Core.

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I'm quite sure Gnome is supposed to be faster then KDE maybe it's just loading less stuff in default config, but anyway how's firefox loading in KDE?
On Fedora GNOME may seem faster than KDE, but thats because Fedora/Redhat prefers GNOME, so it recieves more attention than KDE.
 
Old 04-29-2005, 09:36 AM   #28
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I consider C language bases to be more likely the reason
 
Old 04-29-2005, 10:24 AM   #29
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wrc1944 I installed Fc4 Test2 and when I updated up2date, it also stopped working. It shows the list of updates available but won't read their headers. Anyway I upgraded with yum (had to reinstall and do it again because the init scripts in the upgrade didn't work properly) and all is ok. Apparently the problem with up2date is known and they are going to fix it soon.
 
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Thanks much masand,

Sure wish I'd have known this before installing test2. Was it somewhere in the F1, 2, 3 key pages at the beginning of the install? I must (in my haste) have missed it if it is. I don't have enough room on another partition to tar up / and /home, copy them to the other partition, and reformat, so I guess if I can't live with ext3 I'll have to reinstall and yum update again.

I'm starting to feel ext3 is partly the reason this install seems a bit sluggish. I recall years ago when I switched to reiserfs on a RH 7 install, the difference was remarkable. Of course I am used to Gentoo.
when u insert 1st CD then at the boot promt
u run that command insted of pressing ENTER

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