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Old 04-29-2009, 04:22 PM   #1531
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poorboywilly,

In the mean time, try something like this:

http://applian.com/flvplayer/

It will play both the autobah and rtmpdump streams and probably has better performance than the flash plugin since there is no brower overhead. Adobe also has a standalone flash player that you could try. I used Applian on a VM for testing the autobahn streams before the ffmpeg fix and it worked fine. I had some fullscreen lag, but that might have been due to the virtual video adapter.
 
Old 04-29-2009, 05:07 PM   #1532
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Applian FLV Player

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In the mean time, try something like this:

http://applian.com/flvplayer/
Hope this isn't too far off topic, but I've been using Applian FLV Player to play the downloaded streams from MLB, but the one problem I am having with it is working out how to get full screen on a second monitor (my LCD TV). Any ideas, Theophile (or anyone else)?
 
Old 04-29-2009, 05:23 PM   #1533
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Hope this isn't too far off topic, but I've been using Applian FLV Player to play the downloaded streams from MLB, but the one problem I am having with it is working out how to get full screen on a second monitor (my LCD TV). Any ideas, Theophile (or anyone else)?
Not a clue, here. I haven't used Windows as my primary OS since the latest version was 98SE.
 
Old 04-30-2009, 12:54 AM   #1534
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Hope this isn't too far off topic, but I've been using Applian FLV Player to play the downloaded streams from MLB, but the one problem I am having with it is working out how to get full screen on a second monitor (my LCD TV). Any ideas, Theophile (or anyone else)?

I know for VLC in order to show the video in Full Screen on the second monitor I had to uncheck the Integrate video in interface check box. Then the video would go to full screen in whatever monitor I had the window in. Maybe there is a similar setting in Applian. Just a thought.

Tak
 
Old 04-30-2009, 01:50 AM   #1535
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My pet project to get mlbviewer running on YDL/PS3/PPC architecture seems to have ground to a halt. I am convinced that Autobahn will not work on PPC; whenever I start a stream I get exception errors. I've tried different flavours of java, opening ports and turning off anything that could be using ports 8000 & 8001 and even starting it to a different port but to no avail. So I think that option is dead.

Tried (very breifly) rtmpdump last night but although it began running I couldn't get it to launch a stream and invoke mplayer. I've have another play.

Personally, I think daftcat should buy a PS3 and sort this out for me!

Curiously, I went on the MLB.TV support and argued against their support team's repeated mantra that "the MLB.TV output stream is especially formatted for flash and will not work on any other player", saying that I'd successfully used mplayer to play a stream (although I didn't say how!). My thread got deleted!

My remaining hopes are either Sony improve their PS3 browser (they have a native version of flash based on version nine that does not support the MLB.TV video stream so you just get the audio) or that Adobe release a PPC version of Flash 10. I'm wisely not holding my breath...
 
Old 04-30-2009, 03:42 AM   #1536
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My pet project to get mlbviewer running on YDL/PS3/PPC architecture seems to have ground to a halt. I am convinced that Autobahn will not work on PPC; whenever I start a stream I get exception errors. I've tried different flavours of java, opening ports and turning off anything that could be using ports 8000 & 8001 and even starting it to a different port but to no avail. So I think that option is dead.

Tried (very breifly) rtmpdump last night but although it began running I couldn't get it to launch a stream and invoke mplayer. I've have another play.

Personally, I think daftcat should buy a PS3 and sort this out for me!

Curiously, I went on the MLB.TV support and argued against their support team's repeated mantra that "the MLB.TV output stream is especially formatted for flash and will not work on any other player", saying that I'd successfully used mplayer to play a stream (although I didn't say how!). My thread got deleted!

My remaining hopes are either Sony improve their PS3 browser (they have a native version of flash based on version nine that does not support the MLB.TV video stream so you just get the audio) or that Adobe release a PPC version of Flash 10. I'm wisely not holding my breath...
I don't play games. I nearly killed my wrists and shoulders playing Diablo 2 addictively and obsessively back in the day. After that, I decided that if my hands, wrists, shoulders, etc, are my means of income for the next 30 or 40 years, it ain't worth it to blow 'em on games.

That said, I have absolutely no interest in PS3. I mean, c'mon, if it can't play MLB.TV, what good is it? I'm checking in a patch or two to rtmpdump for version 1.5. In the meantime, if you make that one line change in rtmp.cpp to increase the size of the alloc for SendPlay() (line 732 if I remember correctly) to 512 or 1024, you should be able to try an archived game with stdout.py in the test directory.

I can sympathise with mlb.tv for not wanting to support every platform. Personally, I think it's just a cop-out to support mac os x but not linux. But PS3? I stand on mlb.com's side. If it doesn't support java or flash, what good is it? Get a laptop and an LCD. Probably can pick it up for cheaper than a PS3. Did you try the IBM java hack I posted a link for? I have a hard time believing that PPC doesn't have a functional jre.

Finally, try this. A quick test. If you can start autobahn.jar with whatever jre you have, open a web browser to localhost:8001 (or whatever port you use.) You should see a 404 error from the Jetty web server embedded in the autobahn.jar:

Code:
Error 404 - Not Found.
No context on this server matched or handled this request.
Contexts known to this server are:

    * HttpContext[/protected]
    * HttpContext[/]

The links above may not work if a virtual host is configured
If you don't see that, e.g. the web server isn't working, then nothing else will work.
 
Old 04-30-2009, 04:03 AM   #1537
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Quick question (and quick roadmap):

Now that the revision I released yesterday or the day before tells you what stream you are using, are you guys actually getting the 3000K stream?

I never get more than the 2200K stream, but I'm not complaining. The 2200 is more than enough and Comcast probably can't give me more than 2.5 mbps without upgrading to a Docsis 3.0 cable modem.

I'm going to have an extremely busy weekend (my dance competition season is beginning with two comps in two days this weekend) so I'm just going to finish up some documentation, the rtmpdump integration, and maybe a couple more features like an HD indicator and condensed games and call this ready for first Sourceforge release for Monday. After that, jump to innings interface will probably be the last major feature. Then I can shift to maintenance mode for awhile. Maybe even make it out to a real game instead of testing the streams 24/7. Later next month or June I'll write a stream downloader based on mlblistings.py and soapevent.py for the non-premium users to replace mlbdvr.py. No curses gui, but decent command-line options. Finally, I expect if Adobe makes good on their promise to release the RTMP specification, I'll probably be busy again later this summer if and when mplayer/ffmpeg support RTMP natively.
 
Old 04-30-2009, 04:49 AM   #1538
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Daftcat, the PS3 is a gorgeous piece of kit. It's main use in my house is as a media server with a 80GB hard drive. Plus it's a Blue Ray up-scaling DVD player. Plus you can burn DivX/avi files to data-DVDs and it'll play them - I have every episode of Family Guy burnt to a grand total of three disks! Oh and MLB The Show on PS3 is almost as good as MLBviewer!

My wife has a top-spec laptop that I can hook up to the HDTV (as I did last night for Marlins v Mets) but it's her works laptop and she selfishly uses it to work at home. Even though it's high spec, nexdef/flash is not as gorgeous as MLBviewer running on my pretty crappy Ubuntu PC. Last night nexdef switched from one-bar to six-bars continuously, causing the picture to hiccup every thirty seconds. Even with nexdef (allegedly) off it still did this.

As for YDL on PPC I'm convinced Autobahn won't run on PPC as the errors via MLBviewer as the same as I get on my Ubuntu PC when a nexdef stream goes down (as Marlins v Mets did last night).

I'll try a couple of things tonight as per your suggestions. If I can't get rtmpdump running I think 'll give up.

Curiously, it is thought that a deal has been signed between ESPN and Sony for ESPN to provide PPV baseball streams on the PS3. Which is why MLB.TV seem to actively block MLB.TV on the PS3.
 
Old 04-30-2009, 04:50 AM   #1539
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It seems I've conveyed my intentions improperly. I've annoyed at least one person in this thread by my last post.

I wasn't attempting to police this thread, or anything of the sort. I was simply offering a venue for social interaction.

My apologies to anyone I've offended.
 
Old 04-30-2009, 07:59 AM   #1540
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non-premium question

do I need svn mplayer and ffmpeg to play rtmpdump stream?

I've tried both with -dumpstream and without and I always get Core Dumped messages from mplayer.
(testing r177 and rtmpdump 1.5)
 
Old 04-30-2009, 08:10 AM   #1541
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non-premium question

do I need svn mplayer and ffmpeg to play rtmpdump stream?

I've tried both with -dumpstream and without and I always get Core Dumped messages from mplayer.
(testing r177 and rtmpdump 1.5)
Did you do this?

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...48#post3524748
 
Old 04-30-2009, 08:41 AM   #1542
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And -dumpstream isn't going to be supported unless a fix for rtmpdump's over-streaming issue(s) becomes available.

I've been testing the non-nexdef code for a couple of days now and I'm kinda jealous. Kinda. The stability seems awesome, but the stream quality sucks. I swear they are trying to pass off some pretty awful looking streams as 800K. I mean, it's not that watching a 2200K stream has spoiled me, but some of these streams look very grainy like last year's 400K stream.

It is rather nice not having to restart the stream, though. I just wish the live stream bug was fixed already.
 
Old 04-30-2009, 09:01 AM   #1543
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I've checked in the rtmpdump patch. You'll need to run the Patch.sh again from the rtmpdump-patches directory.

Included in this patch, I've changed the compiled binary name back to rtmpdump (not rtmpdump_x86) and made a "make install" section that copies rtmpdump to /usr/bin.
 
Old 04-30-2009, 10:55 AM   #1544
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Code:
Error 404 - Not Found.
No context on this server matched or handled this request.
Contexts known to this server are:

    * HttpContext[/protected]
    * HttpContext[/]

The links above may not work if a virtual host is configured
Yes - that is exactly what I get. is this good or bad news?
 
Old 04-30-2009, 11:09 AM   #1545
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It seems I've conveyed my intentions improperly. I've annoyed at least one person in this thread by my last post.

I wasn't attempting to police this thread, or anything of the sort. I was simply offering a venue for social interaction.

My apologies to anyone I've offended.
rjwood...i got your reply. can't seem to email you directly (the email your reply came with bounced) or via forums (you are set to not receive emails from users apparently). i for one would be interested in your forum to talk baseball aside from this forum. obviously people here are passionate enough about baseball to want to jigger a piece of software to watch it in a way better than is offered by MLB. please post the info here.

thanks~!
 
  


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