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Old 02-06-2005, 10:58 PM   #16
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Originally posted by JDW
install scim-pinyin and scim-tables and you should be able to use Cangjie, smart pinyin etc. in an English environment (I've found as long as you set your LC_CTYPE setting to zh_CN.UTF-8 or zh_TW.UTF-8
Hi JDW,

Now I have following SCIM packages running on FC2 box;
$ rpm -qa | grep scim
scim-tables-0.5.0-1fc3
scim-pinyin-0.5.0-1fc3
scim-1.1.2-1fc3
scim-tables-additional-0.5.0-1fc3

Performed tests as follows;
1)
# service IIim stop
Stopping IIIMF input server: [ OK ]

2)
$ export XMODIFIERS=@im=SCIM; export LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.UTF-8; scim -d
Code:
Smart Common Input Method 1.1.2

Launching a SCIM process with x11...
Loading -d Config module ...
Creating backend ...
Loading x11 FrontEnd module ...
Starting SCIM as daemon ...
SCIM has been successfully launched.
both
$ oowriter
$ kedit
worked with 'smart pinyin' method available.

3)
$ export XMODIFIERS=@im=SCIM; export LC_CTYPE=zh_TW.UTF-8; scim -d
also worked. However the Chinese characters input were simplified Chinese not traditional Chinese)

But I could not find 'Cangjie, Easy, etc.' input methods.

4)
$ export XMODIFIERS=@im=SCIM; export LC_CTYPE=zh_TW.UTF-8
$ export XMODIFIERS=@im=SCIM; export LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.UTF-8
(without 'scim -d')

$ oowriter / kedit
also worked
Only 'code/smart pinyin' without 'Cangjie, Easy, etc. input methods.

SCIM config window could not find 'Cangjie' engine.

B.R.
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Old 02-06-2005, 11:53 PM   #17
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How to make SCIM work

3)
$ export XMODIFIERS=@im=SCIM; export LC_CTYPE=zh_TW.UTF-8; scim -d
also worked. However the Chinese characters input were simplified Chinese not traditional Chinese)

Have you made sure your font is a traditional Chinese one (e.g. one with a Big5 extension)? Once set up like this it doesn't matter really if you have zh_CN or zh_TW, you can input Trad or Simp Chinese just by changing the input from the SCIM bar, and by changing font. You can input Korean, Japanese, etc. in this way too...

to find other input methods, right-click on the SCIM bar where it says "Chinese", and select Traditional Chinese from the list of options - Cangjie etc. should be there...

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Old 02-07-2005, 02:08 AM   #18
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Re: How to make SCIM work

Hi JDW,

Quote:
Have you made sure your font is a traditional Chinese one (e.g. one with a Big5 extension)? Once set up like this it doesn't matter really if you have zh_CN or zh_TW, you can input Trad or Simp Chinese just by changing the input from the SCIM bar, and by changing font. You can input Korean, Japanese, etc. in this way too...
I got it, using either

[Ctrl]+[Slash]
OR
left cliking the "chacater" on the SCIM bar to change [English],[Chinese],[Simplified],[Trad]

[Chinese] and [Simplified] are the same fonts

Quote:
to find other input methods, right-click on the SCIM bar where it says "Chinese", and select Traditional Chinese from the list of options - Cangjie etc. should be there...
Sorry I tried many times. Righ clicking 'smart input' and selecting SCIM setup started SCIM config window. Under 'Input Engine' I could not find Cangjie input, only 'smart input' and 'code input' there. Right clicking on the characer "Chinese" (on the SCIM bar) had no function.

I wonder whether I left out some SCIM package/packages not yet installed.

B.R.
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Old 02-07-2005, 04:35 PM   #19
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sorry, try left click on the scim bar where it says "Chinese" (or whatever other language is listed)

it shoulod give you a stack of languages/inputs to choose from...

jdw
 
Old 02-07-2005, 11:22 PM   #20
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Quote:
Originally posted by JDW
sorry, try left click on the scim bar where it says "Chinese" (or whatever other language is listed)

it shoulod give you a stack of languages/inputs to choose from...
Hi JDW,

On the SCIM bar in about the middle, there is a singe Chinese character there. Left-clicking it toggles amongst “English”, “Simplified”, “Traditional” and ”Chinese” input, all in a single Chinese character. “Chinese” and “Simplified” are the same, both inputing Simplified Chinese characters. On the left of he abovementioned “toggling Chinese characters” is “Smart Pinyin” input method. I could not discover Cangjie input method even on SCIM setup window neither on right/left clicking the “Smart Pinyin”. It is quite strange to me. That is why I doubt whether I left out some SCIM packages without installed.

Yesterday I posted "How to setup Cangjie input method, etc" on "Scim-user" mailing list but up to now no reply.

B.R.
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Old 02-08-2005, 03:06 AM   #21
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Problem solved

Hi JDW,

I got my problem solved after installing
scim-tables-zh-0.5.0-1fc3.i386.rpm

Now I have several Traditional Chinese input methods including Cangjie and also several Simplified Chinese input method in addition to "Smart Pinyin"

Lot of thanks for your continue support in the past.

Hi folks on the forum,
================

If you need to run SCIM on FC2 for Chinese input, both Traditional and Simplified Chinese, you have to install following packages;
Code:
scim-tables-0.5.0-1fc3
scim-pinyin-0.5.0-1fc3
scim-tables-zh-0.5.0-1fc3
scim-1.1.2-1fc3
May-be "scim-tables-0.5.0-1fc3" can be left out, I'm not certain. So please try installing;
Code:
scim-pinyin-0.5.0-1fc3
scim-tables-zh-0.5.0-1fc3
scim-1.1.2-1fc3
first to check.

B.R.
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Old 02-14-2005, 07:25 PM   #22
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I'm having similar problems. I can't get chinese input to be an option for scim.

I have the following rpms installed on FC3:

$ rpm -qa | grep scim
scim-libs-1.0.1-5fc3
scim-pinyin-0.5.0-1fc3
scim-1.1.3-1fc3
scim-tables-additional-0.5.0-1fc3
scim-tables-0.5.0-1fc3
scim-tables-zh-0.5.0-1fc3

I've stopped the IIIMF server, and have done:

$ export XMODIFIERS=@im=SCIM; export LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.UTF-8; scim -d
Smart Common Input Method 1.1.3

Launching a SCIM process with x11...
Loading -d Config module ...
Creating backend ...
Loading x11 FrontEnd module ...
Starting SCIM as daemon ...
SCIM has been successfully launched.


However, the only options I have when I click on the SCIM button are English/keyboard or Raw Code. Can anyone figure out what I'm missing?

Thanks in advance.
 
Old 02-15-2005, 04:18 AM   #23
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Hi bilco,

FC2

My old problem comes back again. I don't know what has been happend to my FC2 box.

Now I can't input Chinese on OOoWriter, only working on kedit and gedit. Other input methods disappear on SCIM setup window, only smart pinyin left there.

$ rpm -qa | grep scim
scim-pinyin-0.5.0-1fc3
scim-1.1.2-1fc3
scim-tables-additional-0.5.0-1fc3
scim-tables-0.5.0-1fc3
scim-tables-zh-0.5.0-1fc3

compared with the SCIM packages mentioned in my previous posting
scim-libs-1.0.1-5fc3 (disappeared)
scim-pinyin-0.5.0-1fc3
scim-1.1.3-1fc3 (now changed to scim-1.1.2-1fc3)
scim-tables-additional-0.5.0-1fc3
scim-tables-0.5.0-1fc3
scim-tables-zh-0.5.0-1fc3

I have not installed any new software recently only having run "yum update" several times

It is very strange.

Hi JDW,

Any suggestion?

B.R.
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Old 02-15-2005, 03:44 PM   #24
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Hi Satimis,

I'm not really sure what has happened there, but it may be an idea to uninstall (rpm -e packagename) all the scim files, reinstall them and go through the steps we have gone through above.
I think yum-update only updates the lists of packages available (new packages, updgrades, bug-fixes etc) without actually upgrading anything - but hey, i've never used yum, so I'm not to be trusted!

bilco, there have been a few postings on LQ about Open Office not working with SCIM on FC3, maybe search through some of them - our fellow posters have spent a bit of time on that issue...

cheers,

jdw
 
Old 02-17-2005, 10:41 AM   #25
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Hi JDW,

Quote:
I'm not really sure what has happened there, but it may be an idea to uninstall (rpm -e packagename) all the scim files, reinstall them and go through the steps we have gone through above.........
I removed all scim packages with
# rpm -e scim*

Downloaded following scim packages from SF;
$ ls ./Download/Scim_sourceforge/
Code:
scim-1.1.2-1fc3.i386.rpm          scim-pinyin-0.5.0-1fc3.i386.rpm
scim-1.1.3-1fc3.i386.rpm          scim-tables-0.5.0-1fc3.i386.rpm
scim-chinese-0.4.2-1fc3.i386.rpm  scim-tables-zh-0.5.0-1fc3.i386.rpm
scim-libs-1.0.1-5fc3.i386.rpm     skim-1.0.2-3fc3.i386.rpm
and reinstalled following pakages;
$ rpm -qa | grep scim
scim-1.1.2-1fc3
scim-tables-0.5.0-1fc3
scim-tables-zh-0.5.0-1fc3
scim-pinyin-0.5.0-1fc3

I was not allowed to insall;
# rpm -Uvh scim-libs-1.0.1-5fc3.i386.rpm
Code:
/etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: No such file or directory
Preparing...                ########################################### [100%]
        file /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/scim from install of scim-libs-1.0.1-5fc3 conflicts with file from package scim-1.1.2-1fc3
        file /etc/scim/config from install of scim-libs-1.0.1-5fc3 conflicts with file from package scim-1.1.2-1fc3
        file /usr/bin/scim from install of scim-libs-1.0.1-5fc3 conflicts with file from package scim-1.1.2-1fc3
        file /usr/bin/scim-config-agent from install of scim-libs-1.0.1-5fc3 conflicts with file from package scim-1.1.2-1fc3
        file /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/immodules/im-scim.so from install of scim-libs-1.0.1-5fc3 conflicts with file from package scim-1.1.2-1fc3
        file /usr/lib/scim-1.0/scim-launcher from install of scim-libs-1.0.1-5fc3 conflicts with file from package scim-1.1.2-1fc3
        file /usr/bin/scim-make-table from install of scim-libs-1.0.1-5fc3 conflicts with file from package scim-tables-0.5.0-1fc3
Test performed as follows;

Stopped IIimf running

on terminal
$ export XMODIFIERS=@im=SCIM; export LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.UTF-8; scim -d[code]
Code:
Smart Common Input Method 1.1.2

Launching a SCIM daemon with Socket FrontEnd...
Loading -d Config module ...
Creating backend ...
Loading socket FrontEnd module ...
Starting SCIM as daemon ...
Launching a SCIM process with x11...
Loading -d Config module ...
Creating backend ...
Loading x11 FrontEnd module ...
Starting SCIM as daemon ...
SCIM has been successfully launched.
$ kedit
Chinese input worked with all input methods available

$ gedit
gedit started but [Ctrl] + [Space] without function.

Right click on gedit window -> Input method
It found "Internet/Intranet" input method checked/selected

Then select "SCIM input method". Chinese input worked.

$ oowriter
OOoWriter started but [Ctrl] + [Space] without function.

$ mozilla
Mozilla started but [Ctrl] + [Space] without function.

Any suggestion. TIA

B.R.
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