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Old 12-20-2012, 12:13 AM   #1
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Flash Player Or Icedtea Plugin for FC17


Hi:

I'm having trouble getting youtube video's to play.

I just updated my system since installing it; yesterday-
Very long update; BTW

Code:
[ ~]$ lspci | grep -i audio
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Panther Point High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Device aa90
[ ~]$
Firefox alerts me that additional plugins are required however when I attempt to install missing plugins I get "No suitable plugin's found"

I don't understand how to add this repository in the terminal:
Code:
## Adobe Repository 64-bit x86_64 ##
rpm -ivh http://linuxdownload.adobe.com/adobe-release/adobe-release-x86_64-1.0-1.noarch.rpm
rpm --import /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-adobe-linux
Do I include the line that says ##Adobe Repository 64-bit in the terminal?
Do I need Flash and the Icedtea-web plugin?

Anyway I downloaded:
Code:
icedtea-web1.31.1.fc17.X86_64.rpm
It's 686kb and it's in my download's directory.
I know how to extract it but not sure what the next step to perform is-
Read a 'read me' file? (guessing)
Please advise

These are the webpages I'm reading to try to help myself.
http://www.if-not-true-then-false.co...-red-hat-rhel/

http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/se...ry=icedtea-web

I'm looking thru the Fedora 17 users Guide as well-
 
Old 12-20-2012, 12:35 AM   #2
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Hi

Tried to reply to your PM but it doesn't seem to register with LQ.

I gave up trying to use FF for Youtube / Flash duties with FC17 and simply yum install'ed the Google Chrome browser - which plays Flash just fine via its built-in facilities / integrated code AFAIK.

I still use FF for all my other browsing, but when I want to watch Youtube vids I simply start up Chrome.

I'm not sure if you can get an external Flash Player for FF (especially if you are running 64 bit) since Adobe is a bit neurotic as regards Linux Flash support - one month they are supporting it, the next not - AFAIK there is no plans at the moment to support Flash for Linux on the longer term at all at Adobe.

I've heard it said that Flash is obsolete and going to disappear as HTML5 can apparently do "flash-like" stuff like video playback natively??

Last edited by rylan76; 12-20-2012 at 01:39 AM.
 
Old 12-20-2012, 12:43 AM   #3
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Don't get why PM didn't work. Wonder why?!#$

I read about it today; that Adobe isn't going to provide support for Flash or Linux soon-
That's disappointing!

Yes, this Vaio's 64bit not sure-

Don't really want Chrome unless it's the only way-

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Old 12-20-2012, 12:57 AM   #4
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Code:
[redhatc ~]$ su
Password: 
[root@redhatc]# ## Adobe Repository 64-bit x86_64 ##
[root@redhatc]# rpm -ivh http://linuxdownload.adobe.com/adobe-release/adobe-release-x86_64-1.0-1.noarch.rpm
Retrieving http://linuxdownload.adobe.com/adobe-release/adobe-release-x86_64-1.0-1.noarch.rpm
warning: /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.GoBndc: Header V3 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID f6777c67: NOKEY
Preparing...                ########################################### [100%]
	package adobe-release-x86_64-1.0-1.noarch is already installed
[root@ redhatc]# rpm --import /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-adobe-linux
Don't understand what's wrong?
 
Old 12-20-2012, 01:42 AM   #5
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Not sure either - I read about the whole Adobe / Linux flash support travail just before installing FC17 so I just decided to skip the hassle and yummed down Chrome.

Also, I mostly do not care about Flash in websites, and if I want to youtube I simply use Chrome.

Not sure about the fact that using Chrome is at the moment the only way to get Flash functionality in 64 bit Linux (there are probably several ways) but hey! It works and works quite well...
 
Old 12-20-2012, 01:57 AM   #6
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You said your not sure either-

Wonder if the fedoraproject would return what that warning is about?
I'll try-

There has to be a way to get Flash functionality in 64 bit Linux-
Determine as I've put a lot of effort into this-
 
Old 12-20-2012, 02:10 AM   #7
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Might need a GNU key but don't know for sure-

Anyway Adobe is already installed so now I'm really confused!
 
Old 12-20-2012, 06:22 AM   #8
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Is that RPM actually the flash player?? Or something else?

AFAIK to have flash functionality in FireFox (at least, in older versions of it) you need to have, in your home directory a

.mozilla/plugins

folder inside of which you need a file called

libflashplayer.so

to have Flash functionality in FireFox...

If you do NOT have such folds and / or file in your home dir it might be that the RPM install failed somehow, or the RPM you grabbed is NOT something that contains the FlashPlayer shared dynamic library file / .so file?
 
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Old 12-20-2012, 06:43 PM   #9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rylan76 View Post
Is that RPM actually the flash player?? Or something else?

AFAIK to have flash functionality in FireFox (at least, in older versions of it) you need to have, in your home directory a

.mozilla/plugins

folder inside of which you need a file called

libflashplayer.so

to have Flash functionality in FireFox...

If you do NOT have such folds and / or file in your home dir it might be that the RPM install failed somehow, or the RPM you grabbed is NOT something that contains the FlashPlayer shared dynamic library file / .so file?
I (think) it's the RPM. I'll look again.

Also I'll check in my Home directory like you advised for that <.mozilla/plugins>
If this continues to fail I'll begin again and verify that I have (not sure how to check)I have the right RPM pkg and the flash with it-

I remember seeing <libflashplayer.so> or something like that during my first 'yum update' yesterday.
I'll look for that file as well. Hope I can get this running correctly-
 
Old 12-21-2012, 12:56 AM   #10
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Well, last time I struggled with this I managed to get FlashPlayer working (with a much older FireFox version and a much older Fedora) I could get Flash support in FireFox by simply copying the .so file directly into my pre-existing ~./mozilla/plugins folder.

So if you cannot get hold of the .so file somehow, let me know and I can post it somewhere for you to download. If you then also go and put it in your /home/yourusername/.mozilla/plugins folder, it SHOULD work if you then restart your Firefox...

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Old 12-21-2012, 05:00 PM   #11
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when you installed a different flash ( the ff plugin)
did you also reset "alternatives" ?
fedora uses openJDK
and that is the plugin used by default in Alternatives
 
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:44 PM   #12
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Well, last time I struggled with this I managed to get FlashPlayer working (with a much older FireFox version and a much older Fedora) I could get Flash support in FireFox by simply copying the .so file directly into my pre-existing ~./mozilla/plugins folder.

So if you cannot get hold of the .so file somehow, let me know and I can post it somewhere for you to download. If you then also go and put it in your /home/yourusername/.mozilla/plugins folder, it SHOULD work if you then restart your Firefox...
I looked in my Home Directory and I do not have this:
.mozilla/pluginsfile nor folder-
I also looked for the file called libflash player.soand don't have that either.
I used 'Catfish' to make sure it wasn't any mistake on my part.

I even went as far as joining the Ask Fedoraproject.org to learn and I was really amazed that there wasn't a answer to "How to make a file or directory in Fedora 17"
Truth is I am not sure how to get that .so file. Please explain. In the meantime I'll try to help myself in finding that somehow; Google maybe-

I'm glad to have your help.
 
Old 12-21-2012, 08:53 PM   #13
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when you installed a different flash ( the ff plugin)
did you also reset "alternatives" ?
fedora uses openJDK
and that is the plugin used by default in Alternatives
No I did not reset 'alternatives' because I didn't know that I should have and not sure where that reset is located-
(still learning my new OS)

I'll have to read about JDK-

At this point would it help to install the icedtea-web1.3.1-1.fc17.X86_64.rpmthat's in my downloads directory?
 
Old 12-22-2012, 12:50 AM   #14
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In frustration I opened the Terminal and ran:

Code:
[redhatc ~]$ su
Password: 
[root@ redhatc]# yum install flash-plugin
Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit
adobe-linux-x86_64                                       |  951 B     00:00     
updates/17/x86_64/metalink                               |  12 kB     00:00     
updates                                                  | 4.7 kB     00:00     
updates/primary_db                                       | 7.2 MB     00:33     
updates/group_gz                                         | 435 kB     00:06     
adobe-linux-x86_64                                                          2/2
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package flash-plugin.x86_64 0:11.2.202.258-release will be installed
--> Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved

================================================================================
 Package         Arch      Version                  Repository             Size
================================================================================
Installing:
 flash-plugin    x86_64    11.2.202.258-release     adobe-linux-x86_64    6.9 M

Transaction Summary
================================================================================
Install  1 Package

Total download size: 6.9 M
Installed size: 19 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
flash-plugin-11.2.202.258-release.x86_64.rpm             | 6.9 MB     00:49     
warning: rpmts_HdrFromFdno: Header V3 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID f6777c67: NOKEY
Public key for flash-plugin-11.2.202.258-release.x86_64.rpm is not installed
Retrieving key from file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-adobe-linux
Importing GPG key 0xF6777C67:
 Userid     : "Adobe Systems Incorporated (Linux RPM Signing Key) <secure@adobe.com>"
 Fingerprint: 78a8 75e9 7f09 06bd 6355 73fa 3a69 bd24 f677 7c67
 Package    : adobe-release-x86_64-1.0-1.noarch (@/adobe-release-x86_64-1.0-1.noarch)
 From       : /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-adobe-linux
Is this ok [y/N]: y 
Running Transaction Check
Running Transaction Test
Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction
  Installing : flash-plugin-11.2.202.258-release.x86_64                     1/1 
  Verifying  : flash-plugin-11.2.202.258-release.x86_64                     1/1 

Installed:
  flash-plugin.x86_64 0:11.2.202.258-release
I'm now able to succesfully watch and enjoy videos on you tube.

Rylan and John; Thanks so much for the help.

The fact that Adobe is going to cut us off from support is really disappointing!
Last Version of Flash
http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/0...f-flash-player
Mint users won't like this either-
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=109314
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/a...flash-on-linux

This; IMO is not a good move on Adobe's part-
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTA4MDQ
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=109314

Not sure how to help the Linux community with this one but if there is a way around this I will find it-
What do you think of this?
 
Old 12-23-2012, 04:40 PM   #15
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when you installed a different flash ( the ff plugin)
did you also reset "alternatives" ?
fedora uses openJDK
and that is the plugin used by default in Alternatives
Now I know what you mean; Java Development Kit
Did some reading; thanks-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Development_Kit
 
  


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