fedora4 rpmdb?

james.farrow · 06-17-2005, 01:28 PM

I have downloaded the DVD iso and burnt it etc. I tried to install the rpmdb-fedora rpm and cant find it?
Now it means I cant rpm -Uvh somerpm --aid
What am I missing here?

bentz · 06-17-2005, 03:38 PM

I have no clue about this, except to say that it's removal is mentioned here: http://fedoraproject.org/people/

However, rpmdb-fedora's removal does not appear in the release note area at all, whereas normally, they're pretty good about making a note when a rpm is removed from the distro.

Given that this might not get explained satisfactorily, is there any chance you can put all the media on a web server (or even locally) and switch to yum and update over http? Yum will calculate dependancies for you, much like rpm --aid does.

james.farrow · 06-18-2005, 02:33 AM

Cheers, but I cant ubderstand why its not there?
When I did RHCT Redhat focused a lot on rpm, and unless I misunderstood , this rpm is important in solving dependencies? I know I can use system-config-packages but I have a nvidia card that for soome reason is being difficult on Fedora 4. Although on my multiboot PC I had no trouble whatsoever with Centos4 and Fedora3.
I´ll perevere.......!

bentz · 06-19-2005, 11:00 AM

The problem with the RHCT training will be the disconnect between what is going on with Fedora and what is going on with RHEL. RHEL always lags behind, so it's entirely possible that, in a year or so, a RHCT training based on RHEL 5 will have incorporated the yum philosophy and will have updated it's teachings. Or, perhaps more likely, they will change the training to focus more on using RHN to install packages, and remove yum and/or rpm from the picture entirely for doing large installs with complicated dependancies.

bentz · 06-19-2005, 11:02 AM

But honestly, I have no idea why they've removed that package. I've seen lots of packages I used to use a lot get removed either with no explanation, or a explanation about licensing that I'd don't entirely understand (pine, xmms, libmp3, uw-imap, etc)

james.farrow · 06-19-2005, 01:36 PM

It looks like I´ll be sticking with Fedora 3 for the forseeable future.
Core 4 , for me, isn´t that much of a difference from what I´ve seen so far.
I´ve already installed the latest KDE etc on 3 anyway using yum!!!
I´ll wait and see.
Cheers

bentz · 06-19-2005, 08:43 PM

As a rule of thumb, I've been installing only odd-numbered Red Hat Releases. First it was Red Hat 5.2, then 7.3, then 9, then Fedora Core 1, and now Fedora Core 3. I can't forseeably keep up with a 6 month release cycle on production machines, and I can't really see myself switching to RHEL.

The only thing I'm excited to get my hands on is the new version of OpenLDAP, which has FINALLY FINALLY FINALLY been updated. (Sorry, I've been waiting a long time)

misc · 06-25-2005, 03:20 PM

rpmdb-fedora is obsolete, as you can query a Yum repository for the same information. Instead of --aid just use a depsolver like "yum". There's also yum-utils in Fedora Extras, which offers additional tools like repoquery.

bentz · 06-25-2005, 06:05 PM

I have to ask, though: What about installations that have no Internet access? It's a little presumptuous to assume that anyone who would've used rpm --aid must now have Internet access to an live yum repository, or must have the forsight to have mirrored such a repository offline just to do dependacy resolving. That's my opinion, any way.

What about folks in a firewall's DMZ - where no external access is granted, or folks on dial up? Why download the rpms when you have them locally mounted?

misc · 06-25-2005, 06:08 PM

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Why download the rpms when you have them locally mounted?

Yum can access local non-networked file:// based repositories. Install the createrepo package, and read its manual page.