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Old 10-07-2003, 09:36 PM   #31
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Thanks Jeremy, both of you but here Jeremy Hogan. After reading most of the Fedora site, it seems to be a great project. I am going to download it soon and I'm one of those people you mentioned with home built machines

I'm writing Red Hat docs now and will soon start on Fedora.
 
Old 10-09-2003, 12:20 PM   #32
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Originally posted by jhogan
-The retail product was not necessarily our "desktop play" which means two things, one: that pulling this product from retail is not pulling out of the desktop and two: that there will not mean there won't be *any* product in retail from Red Hat. For example: http://www.redhat.com/software/workstation/
I saw that webpage before. Questions for clarification: What is this RH Professional Workstation, exactly? Is it a retail box version of RHEL 3 WS that is sold in stores? Or is it merely based on RHEL 3? What differences, if any, are there between this and RHEL 3?


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Old 10-09-2003, 12:22 PM   #33
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I saw that webpage before. Questions for clarification: What is this RH Professional Workstation, exactly? Is it a retail box version of RHEL 3 WS that is sold in stores? Or is it merely based on RHEL 3? What differences, if any, are there between this and RHEL 3?
I have the same exact question.
 
Old 10-10-2003, 02:17 PM   #34
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I looked at the fedora site and all I can say is, wtf? It sounds like hype. From what I gathered this is Red Hat Linux 10 with a new (geekier) name on it and a commitment from Redhat to have the Linux community do most of the developement.

I know I must be missing something here. Don't misunderstand me please, I love Redhat Linux and am a paying member of the RHN. What is the difference between the Redhat we know and love and the Fedora project?
 
Old 10-10-2003, 04:34 PM   #35
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From what I gathered this is Red Hat Linux 10 with a new (geekier) name on it and a commitment from Redhat to have the Linux community do most of the developement.
Ironically, the community develops a lot of the software [in Red Hat Linux] already. For that software, Red Hat just do the packaging and QA. It would make sense to let the community do the packaging of that software, too. This would free resources at Red Hat. Resources which they could spend on developing the really important core components, their own software and their Enterprise line of products. Of course, it remains to be seen how easy it will be for independent packagers to take over maintenance of a package in Fedora Core. It is likely that in the beginning, contributors will be limited to maintaining packages in Fedora Extras and earning trust and showing competence. While I agree that Fedora Core 1 (assuming it will become version 1) is expected to be just like Red Hat Linux 10, we've seen a couple of changes in development already during the beta period. For instance, the feature freeze has been less strict, IMO, probably as an answer to users' requests. In the past, complaints have been that when released after a long beta testing period, the software in Red Hat Linux would be out-of-date already.

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I know I must be missing something here. Don't misunderstand me please, I love Redhat Linux and am a paying member of the RHN. What is the difference between the Redhat we know and love and the Fedora project?
Hopefully only good consequences.The web pages mention a couple of differences. It is not my intention to sum up everything here, in particular not the plans on community commitment and open development (it's too early for predictions and the web pages cover Red Hat's control over the project well). Fedora is unsupported by Red Hat (i.e. no web/phone based support). Apparently, a shorter errata support period. The community will need to support old releases of Fedora via Fedora Legacy projects. More frequent releases. Faster development with regard to software version upgrades. Probably -- where possible -- even version upgrades instead of backported security fixes. More ready-to-use software in Fedora compatible packages thanks to the Fedora Extras and Fedora Alternatives projects.
 
Old 10-10-2003, 07:53 PM   #36
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Originally posted by Pcghost
I looked at the fedora site and all I can say is, wtf? It sounds like hype. From what I gathered this is Red Hat Linux 10 with a new (geekier) name on it and a commitment from Redhat to have the Linux community do most of the developement.

I know I must be missing something here. Don't misunderstand me please, I love Redhat Linux and am a paying member of the RHN. What is the difference between the Redhat we know and love and the Fedora project?
I've done a lot of thinking about it the last couple of weeks. Fedora seems like a good thing to me. Linux is a community project itself and Fedora will make Red Hat even better. The more people involved the better. This fosters not only a better product - or collection of products - but a sense of community.

Fedora will be the basis for RHEL. So if you know Fedora, it will take just a little study and playing with RHEL to be familiar with it.

Long live open source

I've also noticed that the Fedora docs are GFDL whereas Red Hat's are Open Documentation License. Nice change.
 
Old 10-10-2003, 10:19 PM   #37
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Check this out:

http://www.johnmunsch.com/articles/F...ettingStarted/

Fedora Core Linux 0.94 (aka Beta 2) Getting Started
 
Old 10-14-2003, 04:17 PM   #38
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I am looking forward to trying Fedora in November and am wondering how involved I will need to be in the upgrade process. Is the Redhat 9 --> Fedora upgrade straight forward? Will there be a direct upgrade path from RedHat 9 to Fedora?

I only ask because I want to know if I will need to book 30 minutes or 8 hours for the upgrade; the current system is pretty much a generic installation of RH9.

If I had time, I'd try one Fedora prior to upgrading but I don't, so your experience would be helpful.
Thanks,,
J.
 
Old 10-16-2003, 04:20 PM   #39
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Im running Fedora a day from now on.
Runs very smooth, expect the nvidia drivers probs, text mode and download drivers solves that.

Only some probs with XMMS, cant play any files and don't seem to play any MP3s. Will solve that prob soon


Way to go!!
 
Old 10-16-2003, 04:58 PM   #40
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You can get xmms-mp3 plug-in for Fedora Core 0.95 (and older) from
http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/0.95/i386/

http://rpm.livna.org/readme.txt
 
Old 10-17-2003, 09:08 AM   #41
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I've been running the "test release 2" and it's working out very well. I've also used the apt sources for Red Hat 9 and, so far, there haven't been any obvious issues (knock on wood). I like this new project because it's community oriented. I like being able to help out in any way that I can.
 
Old 10-23-2003, 01:52 AM   #42
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I tried Fedora, and liked it, but I REALLY am mad at RedHat for various reasons (they are a MS wannabe now), and I can list the reasons if you'd like...anyway, I switched to Slack, and am still trying to get a few things working, but overall REALLY lovin it!
 
Old 10-23-2003, 11:15 AM   #43
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I tried Fedora, and liked it, but I REALLY am mad at RedHat for various reasons (they are a MS wannabe now), and I can list the reasons if you'd like...
Please do.
 
Old 10-23-2003, 03:14 PM   #44
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I tried Fedora, and liked it, but I REALLY am mad at RedHat for various reasons (they are a MS wannabe now), and I can list the reasons if you'd like...
Feodora is the basis for Red Hat's commercial products. so what I'm saying below goes for Fedora goes for Red Hat in general.

Fedora is a free download. Is Windows? Fedora is open source. Is Windows? Fedora has a community of developers from around the world working on the source code which is freely available. Can the same be said for Windows?

You want to add a new feature to the system. You can either.
1. Hire a developer and do what you need (Red Hat and Fedora)
or
2. Pay Microsoft lots of money in license fees and sign a non-disclosure agreement (and still have to hire a developer).

So, please tell, how is Red Hat a Microsoft wannabe?
 
Old 10-23-2003, 11:47 PM   #45
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Red Hat Enterprise Linux or RHEL
Red Hat Enterprise Linux WS= Work Station
Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES= what does ES stand for?
Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS= what does AS stand for?

What the heck have I been downloading and using for the last 1.5 years. Is it just called Red Hat linux 7.2 7.3 8.0 and 9.0? And if I'm understanding things right then fedora is taking the place of Red Hat 10, And red hat is abandoning its Red Hat 10 product. With all of this hate talk here its hard to get a good understanding of whats going on.

If I am understanding things correctly I sure hope the distro that is my favorite doesn't get changed too much. Red Hat is my favorite distro so far, and nothing yet compares to it.
 
  


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