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Old 09-22-2003, 11:54 AM   #1
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Post Fedora Project: Announcing New Direction


Forwarding the announcement as posted to several mailing-lists hosted by Red Hat:

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Red Hat and Fedora Linux are pleased to announce an alignment of their mutually complementary core proficiencies leveraging them synergistically in the creation of the Fedora Project, a paradigm shift for Linux technology development and rolling early deployment models.

We are <...> *thud*

One two ... one two ... testing, is this thing on?

Hello, this is, um, the Engineers speaking. We are still really excited about the project, but this time we have more than just dates. We hope http://fedora.redhat.com will answer lots of your questions, and are sure it will pose a few new ones.

Why Fedora?

Red Hat has a lot of experience in building solid dependable core distributions while the Fedora Linux Project has lots of experience in building effective infrastructure and policy to create many high quality add on packages. Both groups decided to merge the two projects and build outward using our shared experience, and to use the name "Fedora Project".

We don't pretend the merge will be smooth or immediate, but we firmly believe that working with the Fedora Linux Project will get external projects and add-ons up and running better and faster than we could on our own and we are proud to be working with them.

The Fedora Project is something special. It enables Red Hat and the community to work together to provide the community with rapid rolling releases and to get new technology into the hands of developers.

With the solid establishment of Red Hat Enterprise Linux, Red Hat now has a platform for predictable change and high quality support for customers, and for our ISV and IHV partners. Fedora is about the community, about cool new technologies, and extending existing Red Hat tools in a collaborative community. Our new up2date, for example, supports YUM and apt-get repositories.

Fellow Fedorans, a new dawn is upon us, let us begin.

Please note:
The http://rhl.redhat.com/ web site has been renamed
http://fedora.redhat.com/ and the mailing lists have all been renamed:
rhl-list@redhat.com -> fedora-list@redhat.com
rhl-beta-list@redhat.com -> fedora-test-list@redhat.com
rhl-devel-list@redhat.com -> fedora-devel-list@redhat.com
rhl-docs-list@redhat.com -> fedora-docs-list@redhat.com
Your subscriptions have been preserved, moved over to the new names
for the lists.

michaelkjohnson

"He that composes himself is wiser than he that composes a book."
Linux Application Development -- Ben Franklin
http://people.redhat.com/johnsonm/lad/
 
Old 09-22-2003, 01:07 PM   #2
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Excellent, will sticky for a few!
 
Old 09-22-2003, 02:36 PM   #3
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http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/

Isn't this the RedHat 10 mentioned in an earlier post?
 
Old 09-22-2003, 02:57 PM   #4
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Yes. There won't be a Red Hat Linux 10.
 
Old 09-26-2003, 09:52 PM   #5
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Any word on whether or not using Fedora's apt-get repositories will be available, instead of up2date?
 
Old 09-26-2003, 10:29 PM   #6
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Short question, long answer. As a disclaimer, some of this is just my personal point of view.

Expect Red Hat Network to carry Fedora Core and Updates and probably also Fedora Extras, so you can still use up2date and get priority access as usual.

Expect up2date to also support apt/yum repositories in addition to RHN. The installer of Fedora Core Test release 0.94 contains a screen which reads that redhat-config-packages will have apt/yum and network access, too. The test release also contains Yum already, but not yet apt-rpm or Synaptic. They will likely be added in the future, either to Core or Extras.

I would not expect Red Hat to offer and maintain apt/yum repositories in addition to Red Hat Network. As part of the Fedora Project, however, I think the community is free to establish a network of apt/yum repositories which will be made the default in config files.
 
Old 09-30-2003, 05:48 PM   #7
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.....uhmm..... who knows what effect this is going to have on Corporate perceptions of Desktop Linux and the likelihood of buisnesses taking up Linux on the desktop.......... drat ! ........just as things were getting started...........
 
Old 09-30-2003, 05:55 PM   #8
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That target group is served with Red Hat Enterprise Linux WS and future products which are in the queue.
 
Old 10-01-2003, 04:08 PM   #9
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That target group is served with Red Hat Enterprise Linux WS and future products which are in the queue.
The fantasy is over?

No such thing as a free enterprise operating system?

*cry*
 
Old 10-01-2003, 07:15 PM   #10
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I wonder how this is going to affect the people who are currently using Red Hat? Will people stick with Red Hat / Fedora or switch to a different distro?
 
Old 10-02-2003, 03:09 PM   #11
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I wonder how this is going to affect the people who are currently using Red Hat? Will people stick with Red Hat / Fedora or switch to a different distro?
Just what I was thinking... Maybe people who don't like Fedora will switch to a new distro.

Kinda odd, but I never heard of Fedora until this happened.
 
Old 10-02-2003, 04:01 PM   #12
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Frobozz,

it seems as if you didn't understand what this thread is about. Hence your two-line comment make a strange reading.
 
Old 10-02-2003, 05:06 PM   #13
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Frobozz comment made sense to me. What I got out of it was. He never heard of Fedora before this merger was taking place. (I hadn't either). And now he was wondering if people will switch to a new distro.
 
Old 10-02-2003, 05:34 PM   #14
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That alone is somewhat poor input for a discussion, don't you think the same? [At the left of the screen in your profile I can read "Red Hat 9.1", a distribution that doesn't even exist.] I fail to read your mind. Would you mind expanding on any reasons why you would switch the distribution?

Would you change the distro when the company changed its name?

"Fedora" is just a new name.

The (small) "Fedora Linux" community project -- you would know that if you had visited their home page -- happened to provide add-on packages for Red Hat Linux before Red Hat's plans on opening up the distribution development went public.

If Frobozz had referred to changed service details such as support levels and errata support periods or any quotes from http://fedora.redhat.com, I would have understood that. But the name alone doesn't tell anything about the content of the distribution. Look, the first beta was still called Red Hat Linux 9.0.93 (Severn). The second, what I'm updating in the background, is the same plus many bug-fixes and updates, but is called Fedore Core 0.94 (Severn).
 
Old 10-02-2003, 05:49 PM   #15
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That alone is somewhat poor input for a discussion, don't you think the same? [At the left of the screen in your profile I can read "Red Hat 9.1", a distribution that doesn't even exist.] I fail to read your mind. Would you mind expanding on any reasons why you would switch the distribution?

Would you change the distro when the company changed its name?

"Fedora" is just a new name.

The (small) "Fedora Linux" community project -- you would know that if you had visited their home page -- happened to provide add-on packages for Red Hat Linux before Red Hat's plans on opening up the distribution development went public.

If Frobozz had referred to changed service details such as support levels and errata support periods or any quotes from http://fedora.redhat.com, I would have understood that. But the name alone doesn't tell anything about the content of the distribution. Look, the first beta was still called Red Hat Linux 9.0.93 (Severn). The second, what I'm updating in the background, is the same plus many bug-fixes and updates, but is called Fedore Core 0.94 (Severn).
I'll have to change that under my name. I've heard several people call it that and that's the version my friend put on the cd's he burned. Don't worry, I'll fix it.

I didn't say I would switch. I asked a question. Kapeesh?

The problem as I see it is: Fedora is meant to be more unstalbe than the previous releases of Red Hat Linux. A lot of companies use Red Hat Linux as oppossed to Red Hat Advanced Server, etc. They can get good people to administer their machines without paying the extra money. I see it as a money move by red hat that has the potential of driving those customers to a different distro. Only the large companies may want to pay the extra price.

Mind you, I still think the Red Hat server line is still a good deal for large corporations. But is it really better than the Red Hat Linux line or Slackware or Debian? It all boils down to the people who are the administrator's

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