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Grama 05-13-2008 10:05 PM

fedora 9 nvidia problem
 
yes we are all aware of the conundrum at hand with fedora 9 and the nvidia drivers.

the question i have is can we downgrade our X11 setup so that we can install the most recent nvidia drivers or are we stuck waiting?

secondly i am wondering if the new xorg release used in fedora 9 has is incompatible with modeline, unfotunately for me this is the ONLY way i can get my resolution correct and when i tried when i first did the install it appeared not to work.

thanks for any help!

Grama

harry edwards 05-14-2008 04:17 PM

I believe you can downgrade: this is covered in a post onf the offical Fedora forums:

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/forum/...ht=nvidia+xorg

rhodes187 05-15-2008 04:10 PM

This is PRECISELY why I changed my home machine to Apple (Unix machine but with the ability to run popular software and simply work out of the box). I used to not mind taking the better part of an afternoon tinkering around in linux to get a graphics driver to work, or a sound codec to install. Currently either because I have a kid, or I'm simply getting less patient, I just want things to work without a ton of fuss. I was and still am a HUGE proponent for Linux, but unfortunately it is still a long way off for desktop use.

ranger_nemo 05-15-2008 04:47 PM

@rhodes: Nobody says you have to use a version that is full of beta software. I installed F9 over the weekend to check it out, and went back to F8 after two days.

justaguy_75ae 05-16-2008 09:01 PM

fc9
 
Fedora nine is pretty cool my only issue is xorg 7.4 beta everything else works great for me. There is the Java I did not install and test but everything else works fine. The stable version of Xorg should have been released. Nvidia will only release it's driver when the stable version of Xorg 7.4 comes from what I have read. I really like the Kde 4 that is on there it is almost enough to make me give up on gnome it is so nicely done and looks so nice and vivid and life like. Gnome looks so dull and kde has been dull up 4, but Kde 4 changes my complete opinion. Anyways I think things will be fine for Fedora 9 when the Nvidia driver will release.

justaguy_75ae 05-16-2008 09:33 PM

xorg is to blame from Nvida drivers problems
 
If Xorg released 7.4 Final version. Nvidia would have released their drivers they will not release their drivers until Xorg releases a stable version.

The_Trooper 05-17-2008 05:24 PM

Have you guys tried the beta drivers yet? I had a problem with my nvidia driver until i went to ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/173.08

Note that it is a beta driver but it works for me.

jay73 05-17-2008 06:55 PM

Quote:

If Xorg released 7.4 Final version. Nvidia would have released their drivers they will not release their drivers until Xorg releases a stable version
That is the world upside down. You blame an open source project because of issues with a proprietary product. Are there any issues with the open source nvidia drivers? Not that I know of and that is the whole point: if nvidia just opened up their code, the xorg team could rewrite an enhanced open source driver whenever modification is required...
And why should Xorg declare something stable when it clearly isn't yet, just to make nvidia write a new set of drivers? It seems to me that Fedora is to blame for this mess, they may as well include the latest unfinished kernel. What were they thinking?

landonmkelsey 05-17-2008 08:43 PM

I installed Fedora 9 via update from F8 and got a message on boot

"module nvidia.ko not found"

Everything seems to work well so I'll wait until someday

a "yum update" solves the problem!

A few months back there was a similar problem that was resolved by adjusting yum.

There was a problem with ntfs showing a definite bug in the update software.

I fixed the problem and it is contained in bugzilla.

jlo_sandog 05-18-2008 01:49 AM

Do you want a pad on the back? Where's the link to your so called fix?

justaguy_75ae 05-18-2008 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jay73 (Post 3156543)
That is the world upside down. You blame an open source project because of issues with a proprietary product. Are there any issues with the open source nvidia drivers? Not that I know of and that is the whole point: if nvidia just opened up their code, the xorg team could rewrite an enhanced open source driver whenever modification is required...
And why should Xorg declare something stable when it clearly isn't yet, just to make nvidia write a new set of drivers? It seems to me that Fedora is to blame for this mess, they may as well include the latest unfinished kernel. What were they thinking?

Xorg was suppose to release Xorg 7.4 the same day fedora came out they admitted they were slacking.

landonmkelsey 05-18-2008 11:21 AM

pad on the back?...you are projecting your own personality
 
(having read the instructions)

installing new drivers from NVIDIA is a dangerous operation and could mess up everything (many warnings)

the video stuff is a career and a half and not for neophytes

there is not only the driver but xorg to contend with

I try to protect neophytes so they don't abandon ship. I always look out for other people since that should be the theme of this forum!

Just telling them to do some complex operations with many possibilities of disaster is not the way to promote Linux

My message says that the best policy is to simply wait! F9 is just out and the problem will be fixed properly.

Somebody once told me to install rawhide and ultimately I had to reinstall Linux...yum got confused and BOOM!

A few months back this same problem occurred and it was a yum problem!

I'll have to dig for the link!

landonmkelsey 05-18-2008 12:35 PM

here is the link published in this forum

http://thorstenl.blogspot.com/2007/1...and-kmods.html

this may or may not work in the current situation!

justaguy_75ae 05-18-2008 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhodes187 (Post 3154506)
This is PRECISELY why I changed my home machine to Apple (Unix machine but with the ability to run popular software and simply work out of the box). I used to not mind taking the better part of an afternoon tinkering around in linux to get a graphics driver to work, or a sound codec to install. Currently either because I have a kid, or I'm simply getting less patient, I just want things to work without a ton of fuss. I was and still am a HUGE proponent for Linux, but unfortunately it is still a long way off for desktop use.

I think there is linux for apple

oleg8.3 05-18-2008 06:00 PM

I'm currently using the vesa driver and all I had to do was edit one line in the xorg.conf file. Don't know if this temporary fix will work with all Nvidia cards but it worked with mine.


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