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Old 10-24-2007, 10:58 AM   #1
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Unhappy Fedora 7 Network Install is showing SDA partitions when I have Hda


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I'm using the Boot.img to to a network install to my desktop for Fedora 7. When the install screen gets to the partition section, it says it's going to setup the various partitions, but I noticed that it says SDA volumes. But when I went into the Gparted boot disk, it says I have HDA partitions. Is it possible that the site i'm trying to download from is thinking i'm using an SATA hard drive, hence the SDA appearing in the Fedora 7 setup? Or is it possible my hard drive is incorrectly labeled? I ran a windows 98 scan disk on the drive and it says it has bad sectors. After hitting the enter key 95 times or so to "Fix It", I skipped the surface scan. Could I have 2 problems here bad sectors and a label issue? Not sure how to break this down and isolate the cause of the Fedora 7 not installing properly. Bios says max capacity on the drive is 60 gb on LBA format, but above that it has CHS format with max capacity of only 4.7 gb. How can I change the bios to make it LBA format? Everytime I change it and reboot, it doesn't save the large gb LBA format, keeps going back to 4.7 gbs.
 
Old 10-24-2007, 11:03 AM   #2
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No they've changed the naming convention in Fedora to use "sda" as opposed to "hda". It doesn't think you have SATA although that was a very logical guess. Don't use windows 98 to detect/fix errors. Please do the following:

Go to google and search for "drive fitness test". It's made by IBM. Download the cd iso and burn it. Stick it in your cdrom drive and reboot your pc. Boot from the cd (you can enable this in your BIOS) and choose advanced test as opposed to quick test. When you first boot from it, it will ask if you want to load IDE or SCSI drivers, choose IDE. This will tell you if you have a defective hard drive.

Edit: You will possibly need to upgrade your BIOS to support LBA or will need to buy a separate IDE pci card to use the larger drive. These IDE cards have their own up to date BIOS to support up to 250GB. You will though, need to enable that LBA format as opposed to CHS (cylinder / head / sector). That format is only good up to 8GB hdds.

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Old 10-24-2007, 11:42 AM   #3
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Ok i'll try it but one more question...

Ok I'll try the "Drive Fitness Test" iso.

I think my BIOS does support LBA because I see a few selections in the bios stating "LBA enabled" and such. If that's the case should I bother getting the IDE pci card? Or should I just get the card anyway.
 
Old 10-24-2007, 01:10 PM   #4
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The IDE pci card has it's own bios to interact with the LBA enabled hard drives. Therefore it wouldn't matter what your BIOS supported or didn't support. Go with the card to alleviate your issues. Here are my recommended steps though:
1) test the hard drive (hdd)
2) if it's defective, buy a new hdd
2a) enable LBA once again and see if it works this time
2b) If it doesn't, then buy the IDE card
3) If it's not defective, then buy the PCI card from a local retailer if possible so if that doesn't fix your issue you can return it with ease.

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Old 10-25-2007, 12:33 PM   #5
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Ok I'll go check out an IDE card, but what do you think

I'll let you know how it turned out after buying the card.

By the way, i was picking at straws and noticed Fedora had an LBA32 Force Option in it's install menu. After googling and found something related to it in some Redhat install forums, I came across this link...:

http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/bios/sizeGB8-c.html

I looked at my BIOS and noticed the CHS and LBA settings. CHS was saying I only had about 8 gigs but the total sectors under LBA had about 57 gigs. Besides flashing the BIOS(i'm afraid I'll mess it up), is there a suggestion you have that may trick the BIOS or Fedora to recognize there aree 57gigs instead of 8 gigs? The article above states there's really not much you can do to fix it besides the IDE card and BIOS.
 
Old 10-25-2007, 03:52 PM   #6
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Only way would be to try and flash the bios which can always be a risk. I'd look at the changelog for your bios and see if a newer bios even added support for larger disk sizes. If it doesn't then there's no reason to even contemplate it. Did you run that hard drive diagnostic utility yet?
 
Old 10-25-2007, 05:33 PM   #7
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Haven't ran the Advanced scan yet (sort of impatient at the time), but ran the quick scan, and it said the drive was ok. I will run it today though. How do I check the change log on the BIOS?
 
Old 10-25-2007, 05:40 PM   #8
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Find the BIOS update online and it will show you a changelog (what has changed in the previous releases of the bios update). The Advanced Scan of DFT can often detect hard drive defects where the quick scan does not. Always good to run the advanced scan and walk away while it does its thing.
 
Old 10-28-2007, 12:07 AM   #9
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Smile Ok some Progress on a different path...

Ok, I kind of gave up on the Fedora 7 install for now. I was more concerned about making some progress with the hard drive itself. I installed Windows XP and wiped out the partitions. I decided to use ntfs format and partitioned the first 15 gigs of the 60gb hard drive. Previously Fedora would just stop on the install. But good news... Windows XP installed properly. I'm installing Xubuntu now on the 4th partition of the hard drive and it looks like i'll have a good install. What i'll try next is netbootin to install Fedora on Window Xps partition. I'll run Fedora 7 through that partition and will try moving it over to another partition program lvmp or somehting like that. But my theory is that by me formating the first partition with ntfs, it seems to set the standard for fedora and xubuntu to be installed properly. I say this because I tried installing xubuntu before on this same machine and it froze up and wouldn't let me install it. So I think i'm on the right track. Maybe it doesn't mean much to anyone else, but I makde progress by forgmating the first partition of my harddrive to ntfs. Thanks for all of your help.
 
Old 10-28-2007, 09:57 PM   #10
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Linux does not natively write to ntfs. What you would want to do is create a partition with ntfs like you did, then leave some free space unpartitioned/formatted. Then install linux to that other partition and format it ext3
 
Old 10-28-2007, 11:46 PM   #11
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Is it better to use ext2 or ext3 for the non-boot partitions like /root and /home?? I see Fedora will create an ext3 for the /boot partition and /ext2 for the remaining directories or partitons.
 
Old 10-29-2007, 08:14 AM   #12
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I would use ext3 for all root partitions including /home /usr or whatever other mount points you choose to use. EXT3 is a journaling file system while ext2 is not. Stick with ext3, no reason to use an outdating file system type.
 
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I know this may be a silly question but...

Can you change the /ext2 type to /ext3 after you installed Fedora 7 (via gparted or something similar??) I remember seeing a Volume Manager in Fedora Core 6, but don't see it in the menus for Fedora 7. I did not think the ext2 was outdated because the install screen assigned ext2 to by /root directory.
 
Old 10-29-2007, 03:05 PM   #14
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Yes here is a document explaining how -> http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/ext2toext3.htm
 
  


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