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Old 07-28-2013, 12:31 PM   #1
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Fedora 19 & Add / Remove Software


Just upgraded from Fedora 17 to 19, by way of backing up my /home and wiping the drive.

Fedora 19 installed ok, though I had some networking issues to resolve.

Where I knew the name of the package, I was able to use yum to install and update packages. But when I browse the Add/Remove Software item, everything is empty. I checked the preferences and made sure the software sources are selected, but still I can't browse packages like I used to do in F17.

I'd attach a screenshot, but I'm not allowed to post attachments

EDIT - Link to Screenshot - https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-E...A22%253A30.png

Last edited by bebop_man; 07-28-2013 at 12:37 PM. Reason: Added link to screenshot
 
Old 07-28-2013, 03:16 PM   #2
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run yum upgrade yum and yum update as root from a terminal window. that might help.
 
Old 07-28-2013, 03:31 PM   #3
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Also it is not a good idea to reuse the /home partition in an upgrade of fedora ( or new install )

the versions of software used in the new version might NOT be compatible with the old versions
or
the new version of fedora might NOT even be using the same programs as the old version

manually editing the NEW config files from the old backups -- yes
but not reusing

this is one of the first warnings in the fedora documentation on "upgrading"


i would creat a new user and see if that fixes things
 
Old 07-29-2013, 12:16 AM   #4
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run yum upgrade yum and yum update as root from a terminal window. that might help.
After running those commands, no packages were marked for update, and no change to the application. It's still blank.
 
Old 07-29-2013, 12:19 AM   #5
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Also it is not a good idea to reuse the /home partition in an upgrade of fedora ( or new install )

the versions of software used in the new version might NOT be compatible with the old versions
or
the new version of fedora might NOT even be using the same programs as the old version

manually editing the NEW config files from the old backups -- yes
but not reusing

this is one of the first warnings in the fedora documentation on "upgrading"


i would creat a new user and see if that fixes things
I didn't reuse /home. I backed up the folders in /home/<user> (Desktop, Downloads, Pictures, etc..) and reformatted the drive as part of the F19 install. After the install was completed, I restore the backup. The only . files I copied back over were for Mozilla, Chrome, Thunderbird and Pidgin.

I'll test the new user setup, and see what happens
 
Old 07-29-2013, 12:25 AM   #6
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i would creat a new user and see if that fixes things
I created a 2nd user on the system, and I have the same issue on both accounts
 
Old 07-29-2013, 12:54 AM   #7
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yumex has ( well for me ) never worked well
nor has Apper on any system

yum issues can be a bit "fun" to diagnose sometimes
in the terminal run this
-- as i recall there was a bug that is now fixed
Code:
su -
yum ref 
yum update yum 

reboot
after the reboot try a update
Code:
su -
yum update
 
Old 07-29-2013, 01:01 AM   #8
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yumex has ( well for me ) never worked well
nor has Apper on any system

yum issues can be a bit "fun" to diagnose sometimes
in the terminal run this
-- as i recall there was a bug that is now fixed
Code:
su -
yum ref 
yum update yum 

reboot
after the reboot try a update
Code:
su -
yum update
I tried to follow these steps, but
Code:
yum ref
results in
Code:
Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit
No such command: ref. Please use /usr/bin/yum --help
 
Old 07-29-2013, 03:05 AM   #9
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oops i am mixing up yum and zypper
forget the "ref"
 
Old 07-31-2013, 10:19 PM   #10
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i just finished installing fedora 19 on some laptops. the first time i opened up the software program for add/remove it was blank for a very long time. i think it starts what used to be the -C option to cache the entire yum repositories of programs and what not before it can display anything.

not sure if thats your situation or not, but worth a shot. also i was able to get some by clicking on a few of the labels on the left hand side as several loaded much faster then the main window.
 
Old 07-31-2013, 10:34 PM   #11
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the very best program for updating is the terminal in fedora
yum is by FAR THE BEST TOOL

non of the gui's can even come close to it
 
Old 08-01-2013, 11:06 PM   #12
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i just finished installing fedora 19 on some laptops. the first time i opened up the software program for add/remove it was blank for a very long time. i think it starts what used to be the -C option to cache the entire yum repositories of programs and what not before it can display anything.

not sure if thats your situation or not, but worth a shot. also i was able to get some by clicking on a few of the labels on the left hand side as several loaded much faster then the main window.

I read your post this AM, so before I left for work I loaded the application, and let it update, and left it open. This evening, 14 hours later, I come back to my laptop. I still get the same message for every category on the left pane: No Results Found.

I can search and pull up packages, but I have no way to browse the lists.
 
Old 08-01-2013, 11:08 PM   #13
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the very best program for updating is the terminal in fedora
yum is by FAR THE BEST TOOL

non of the gui's can even come close to it
Buzz. Wrong. Try again.

That said, when I know the name of the package, or even know that it exists, more often than not I'll use yum. But sometimes I like to browse and see what's out there, and yum doesn't do that. And that's the feature I'm trying to recover. As I said, this worked fine in Fedora 17 on the same machine. I wipe the drive and install FC 19, and it's gone.
 
Old 08-02-2013, 06:02 PM   #14
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What they need is "add/remove kernel" since apparently I'm getting weekly builds of it. Had F19 for all of a couple weeks and there's like 6 grub entries already. Just make a fookin' mess why don't ya, Red Hat.
 
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what is the matter with
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yum search ?????
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yum search games
 
  


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