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Fedora 18, notification software updates failed

Hello All,
For the past couple of days, every time I login, I get a message on the desktop "1 notification 08:33:37 PM (Just Now) Software updates failed. An important OS update failed to be installed"
At each login the time is at that login.
I have looked at the yum log, the boot log and messages but have yet to find anything that points to the problem.
I can start the software manager and check updates with nil outstanding.

Does anyone know what is causing this, and how it is best rectified?

Cheers,
Terry

Does a 'yum check-update' show any updates available? I'm on my first day with Fedora 18 so still feeling my way around things.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blinker_Fluid (Post 4875686)

Does a 'yum check-update' show any updates available? I'm on my first day with Fedora 18 so still feeling my way around things.

No, nothing.
I have re-booted the system a couple of times since my post and each time the message appears, still reporting that it has happened "just now".
Still no sign of anything in log files, that I can see.
It may not be a real problem, but it would be good to at least know that.

Cheers,
Terry

I haven't run into this issue, but it might be worth a shot to do a yum clean all. You have most likely tried running yum update from the command prompt. If not, maybe a message will pop up there.

Bill

Try this

Code:

su -

yum clean all

rpm --rebuilddb

yum update

also can you post the output of

Code:

yum repolist all

you might have turned on an incompatible repo

Quote:

Originally Posted by John VV (Post 4876607)

Try this

Code:

su -

yum clean all

rpm --rebuilddb

yum update

No luck with that lot.

Quote:

also can you post the output of

Code:

yum repolist all

you might have turned on an incompatible repo

OK, that turned up a problem with the Dropbox repo, which I had already switched off in the software manager.
I deleted dropbox.repo from /etc/yum.repos.d, but the problem still persists.
Here is the result of "yum repolist all" for the system right now...

[root@localhost ~]# yum repolist all
Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit
fedora/group_gz | 368 kB 00:00:02
rpmfusion-free/group_gz | 1.7 kB 00:00:00
rpmfusion-free-updates/group_gz | 1.7 kB 00:00:00
rpmfusion-nonfree/group_gz | 1.0 kB 00:00:00
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates/group_gz | 993 B 00:00:00
updates/group_gz | 368 kB 00:00:02
repo id repo name status
fedora/18/x86_64 Fedora 18 - x86_64 enabled: 33,868
fedora-debuginfo/18/x86_64 Fedora 18 - x86_64 - Debug disabled
fedora-source/18/x86_64 Fedora 18 - Source disabled
rpmfusion-free/18/x86_64 RPM Fusion for Fedora 18 - Free enabled: 469
rpmfusion-free-debuginfo/18/x86_64 RPM Fusion for Fedora 18 - Free - Debug disabled
rpmfusion-free-rawhide/x86_64 RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - Free disabled
rpmfusion-free-rawhide-debuginfo/x86_64 RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - Free - Debug disabled
rpmfusion-free-rawhide-source/x86_64 RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - Free - Source disabled
rpmfusion-free-source/18/x86_64 RPM Fusion for Fedora 18 - Free - Source disabled
rpmfusion-free-updates/18/x86_64 RPM Fusion for Fedora 18 - Free - Updates enabled: 47
rpmfusion-free-updates-debuginfo/18/x86_64 RPM Fusion for Fedora 18 - Free - Updates Debug disabled
rpmfusion-free-updates-source/18/x86_64 RPM Fusion for Fedora 18 - Free - Updates Source disabled
rpmfusion-free-updates-testing/18/x86_64 RPM Fusion for Fedora 18 - Free - Test Updates disabled
rpmfusion-free-updates-testing-debuginfo/18/x86_64 RPM Fusion for Fedora 18 - Free - Test Updates Debug disabled
rpmfusion-free-updates-testing-source/18/x86_64 RPM Fusion for Fedora 18 - Free - Test Updates Source disabled
rpmfusion-nonfree/18/x86_64 RPM Fusion for Fedora 18 - Nonfree enabled: 214
rpmfusion-nonfree-debuginfo/18/x86_64 RPM Fusion for Fedora 18 - Nonfree - Debug disabled
rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide/x86_64 RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - Nonfree disabled
rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide-debuginfo/x86_64 RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - Nonfree - Debug disabled
rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide-source/x86_64 RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - Nonfree - Source disabled
rpmfusion-nonfree-source/18/x86_64 RPM Fusion for Fedora 18 - Nonfree - Source disabled
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates/18/x86_64 RPM Fusion for Fedora 18 - Nonfree - Updates enabled: 22
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-debuginfo/18/x86_64 RPM Fusion for Fedora 18 - Nonfree - Updates Debug disabled
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-source/18/x86_64 RPM Fusion for Fedora 18 - Nonfree - Updates Source disabled
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing/18/x86_64 RPM Fusion for Fedora 18 - Nonfree - Test Updates disabled
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing-debuginfo/18/x86_64 RPM Fusion for Fedora 18 - Nonfree - Test Updates Debug disabled
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing-source/18/x86_64 RPM Fusion for Fedora 18 - Nonfree - Test Updates Sourc disabled
updates/18/x86_64 Fedora 18 - x86_64 - Updates enabled: 9,074
updates-debuginfo/18/x86_64 Fedora 18 - x86_64 - Updates - Debug disabled
updates-source/18/x86_64 Fedora 18 - Updates Source disabled
updates-testing/18/x86_64 Fedora 18 - x86_64 - Test Updates disabled
updates-testing-debuginfo/18/x86_64 Fedora 18 - x86_64 - Test Updates Debug disabled
updates-testing-source/18/x86_64 Fedora 18 - Test Updates Source disabled
repolist: 43,694

I don't think I'm any closer to the problem.
Thanks for your help.

Cheers,
Terry

I am not 100% sure of the name so
Check it with " yum search "

there is a yum package called yum-utilitys

Code:

su -

yum search yum*

in that is a program called "yum-fixbroken "

that program aught to be listen in the yum error,to use as a possible fix .

Quote:

Originally Posted by John VV (Post 4876971)

I am not 100% sure of the name so
Check it with " yum search "

there is a yum package called yum-utilitys

Code:

su -

yum search yum*

in that is a program called "yum-fixbroken "

that program aught to be listen in the yum error,to use as a possible fix .

No sign of anything like that ...

Code:

[terry@localhost ~]$ sudo yum search yum*

[sudo] password for terry: 

Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit

Warning: No matches found for: yum*

No Matches found

also a software manager search specifically for "yum-utilitys" and "yum-utilities" didn't turn up anything, nor did a Google search for "yum-fixbroken".
Why aren't I seeing these tools?

Cheers,
Terry

that is odd , there are something like 36 yum packages in the base repo
--- random usa mirror ----
http://mirrors.yocum.org/fedora/rele...os/Packages/y/

what is in the /ver/log/yum.log

Quote:

Originally Posted by John VV (Post 4877012)

that is odd , there are something like 36 yum packages in the base repo
--- random usa mirror ----
http://mirrors.yocum.org/fedora/rele...os/Packages/y/

what is in the /ver/log/yum.log

OK, I see lots of yum packages on that mirror site.
Now when I run the software manager and search for yum I get lots of hits, It says "yum-utils-1.1.31-6.fc18" is installed. that is the only one that comes close to the "yum-utilitys" that you suggested.

yum-utils is in /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/ but it doesn't provide a "yum-fixbroken".

My /var/log/yum.log is too big to include (I get a message that the post is too long).

I don't see anything in the yum.log other than installed and updated messages. No errors or suchlike.

Cheers,
Terry

This is a new install ? right ?

you did not use fedup to upgrade from 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by John VV (Post 4877054)

This is a new install ? right ?

you did not use fedup to upgrade from 17

This is new/clean install. No use of Fedup.
I run two discs, every 6 months, or new Fedora release, I do a clean install to 'second" disc, copy /home across, then install all the non-standard stuff, finally swap the boot order.

Cheers,
Terry

so you put Feodora 17's home folder in fedora 18 ?
or
did you only copy across your data and NOT the config files

the fedora 17 config files in the home folder might cause all kinds of problems in fedora 18

Warning:
there is a warning about that in the install instructions about upgrading

if you did just the normal user home folder ( and not the root "/root" home folder )

make a new user and see what happens

if you copied the fedora 17 /root home folder over

reinstall

Hi! terry-duell:

Nice to meet you-

Not sure if this helps but I heard from an old Linux friend of mine today that the Fedora repo files were mixed up for about a week. Not sure if that is still an issue or not. This made a real mess for him.

I have good reason for not installing the new Fedora 18.
I prefer to wait a while and allow the Developers time to get the bug fixes under control-

I would re-install as our Guru; John VV recommends.
Any wise counsel that he has given me has always worked!

Quote:

Originally Posted by John VV (Post 4877109)

so you put Feodora 17's home folder in fedora 18 ?
or
did you only copy across your data and NOT the config files

I only copied across my data, in /home, which I thought was pretty clear.

Quote:

the fedora 17 config files in the home folder might cause all kinds of problems in fedora 18

Warning:
there is a warning about that in the install instructions about upgrading

if you did just the normal user home folder ( and not the root "/root" home folder )

make a new user and see what happens

if you copied the fedora 17 /root home folder over

reinstall

OK, made a new user, and when logged in a message pops up with pretty much the same story, but with a different look (I am guessing the new user is in gnome shell, I am using cinnamon) and provides details, which are..."Failed to Update. An offline update was requested but no packages required updating".
This is curious, suggests that something is set to automatically update, not something that I have knowingly set.
Does this give a new clue?

Cheers,
Terry