Fedora 16 Freezes after logo before login window
 

Hey guys, im really new at fedora, i was trying to upgrade my fedora 14 to 15 then to 16. i went to couple of trouble (in upgrading, errors and such) but nevertheless i ended up getting it going (the upgrade) using yum releasever=bla etc from the fedora website to 16. now whenever i boot it just freezes after fedora logo and before the login box shows. i cant even click anything or go into ctrl+alt+f2. help... the only thing i can do is press shift when its booting and pick fedora 14 and log in from there using kde (gnome doesnt work, gives the "oops something gone wrong" message) i've been searching for solution and trying out stuff for 2 days but no luck.

oh yeah, i also tried pressing f2 while it boots and everything seems ok except dropbox failed to load and "failed to start LSB: starts and stops login for ISCSI" service or something...

any1 pls help!!!

sorry if things doesnt make sense, cos im typing this in a hurry...
Pls help and thanks in advance!

The first thing I would do is change the default run level to 2. If it boots okay in run level 2, try going to 5 manually (init 5).

Thanks for the reply, eekster.

I've tried what u told me to do. going to run level 2 seems fine but when i try going 5 (init 5) same problem happens again .. desktop shows up with the clock etc (Wed 11:14)
but theyre frozen and the login box doesnt show. :( help!

So it's starting X that's the problem. What video card are you using?

Geforce GTX 580, weird cos it works before the upgrade (fedora 14)

Download and install Nvidia's closed source driver and it'll probably start working.

http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us

how do i do that ? my internet doesnt seem to work too im getting mirror errors "couldnt resolve host" (at runlevel 3), where do i get this nvidia closed driver thing?

ok ive downloaded it somehow using old kernel (f14) and then installed it (the nvidia driver) but problem stays the same.. :S wats next?

Next I'd install all the updates, especially kernel updates.

im pretty sure i have updated everything... still not working .. :(

How?

before this whole problem thing .. i had fedora 14 and i just upgraded to 16 so everything shouldve been downloaded and updated? i feel that the problem lies somewhere else instead of all these updates/drivers... maybe you could give me a more specific instruction on what to do? im pretty frustrated i havent got this working for 5 - 6 days now.

Did you blacklist the nouveau module?

Add this to the kernel options in /etc/grub.conf:
rdblacklist=nouveau

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Not really. After the install you need to do a yum update to get the latest packages.

yes, when i installed nvidia's driver it asks me if i wanted to blacklist the nouveau module and i clicked yes.
ok ill try yum update using the 14 kernel cos i cant connect to internet with that runlevel 3 on 16 kernel no idea why...

EDIT:
ok i finished updating, and now i can see the login screen (doesnt freeze anymore yay) but it looks like a fedora 14's login screen. my screen has now gotten smaller (black borders around) graphic looks really bad and i dont see the fedora logo anymore instead i see a bar (blue and white loading bar). and whenever i tried logging in with GNOME this "oops something gone wrong" error pops. so i can only log in to KDE workspace. What should i do next?

Does ifconfig show the interface to be active? Also take a lot at /var/log/Xorg.0.log, there might be a clue there.

Since you've installed the nVidia propitiatory driver, and can boot to KDE, you should be able to use the nvidia-settings tool to configure the /etc/X11/xorg.conf for your desired resolution, screen size, DMA, etc. Once you've done that, reboot and GNOME should be working. (The "something's gone wrong" message is often - but not always - telling you that you have failed to configure your video card's setting for optimal performance.)

You can also do a dmesg | less to look at the kernel log. Sometimes there's a clue (towards the end of the messages) that might help.

Also, try (as root, from a command line) a yum install yum-utils and then a package-cleanup --problems to see if you have any package problems that you need to address. (From the description of the process you followed, I suspect that you'll need to do a package-cleanup --cleandups and a package-cleanup --oldkernels. See man package-cleanup for details.)

As to the ctrl-alt-f2 problem, you need to add this to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d:

ok, internet is working but nvidia-settings command is not working, it says "command not found" so i tried reinstalling the nvidia driver again and it gives an error: "kernel not found bla bla, you can specify using --kernel --path" or something like that...

i did everything yum utils, package-cleanup problems etc (no problems and no updates done tho)
wat do i do next ? im still sitting with this bad graphix


EDIT: and sound seems to be not working, i was trying to stream videos but no sound :S

It's been a while since I used a nVidia card, so I may have miss-remembered the setting app name. Try a nv<tab_key> at a command prompt to see all command starting with nv, or check your KDE system tray (usually bottom right corner) to see if the settings app is listed. (IIRC, it was sometimes automatically started.) Also, try starting the KDE system-settings app (by clicking on the Fedora symbol at the bottom left) and looking at the display setting. (Again, IIRC, nVidia "replaces" the standard settings app by the nVidia-specific one.)

But, as I noted, I haven't used nVidia since my last laptop broke several years ago.

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Re your sound: Start the sound mixed app and check the output volume settings. They often default to zero. (If you have a speaker symbol in you system tray, right click on it.)
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Do you have the kernel-devel package installed?

alright, ive installed kernel-devel and reinstalled the nvidia driver and graphics went awesome! im back to my awesome resolution now. now the problem is whenever i try to login with GNOME session i still get that "oh no something's gone wrong" error but i can login to 'GNOME classic without compiz' session just fine (it seems that my desktop is unclickable and all my folders on my desktop doesnt show, is this normal?), i really want to login to gnome :( (btw wats the difference between gnome and gnome classic without compiz thing?)

and also, my sound still doesnt work im not sure maybe its just mozilla, cos i hear some beep sounds but i cant hear any sound from youtube videos etc. how to fix? :S

ok guys, i was plyaing around with the sound setting, now the sound is working. The GNOME session also worked after i added rdblacklist=nouveau on grub.conf.
Thanks for helping me till this far. However, i got a couple of questions: how do i change cursor theme? and the desktop background? no matter how many times i try to change my background, it never worked. And also, whenever i boot into fedora, the logo doesnt show up anymore (teardrop thing) instead it shows ugly loading blue/white bars, is there anyway to fix this?