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Ronayn 03-16-2012 01:47 PM

Fedora 14, graphics issues
 
Hello,

I am having problems attempting a DVD based install of Fedora 14 on an HP laptop(8560w) and also on a rack of HP servers (Proliant DL380 G5).

When I get to the boot menu, if I select the option #1 (Install a new system), the boot process begins, but after HW detection, the screen goes black and nothing further happens. The system appears to be locked up, and I've found no recourse but to reboot it.

After powering the system off/on an trying option #1 a few times, I gave up and went with the second option (Install system with basic video driver). This option works, and allows me to go through the entire install procedure. However, once I've logged in, I cannot change the resolution beyond 1024x768 for the laptop, or 1280x1024 for the servers.

I have no clue how to resolve this issue. I'd like to be able to use option #1 for installs, and cannot understand why I am forced to install using a basic video driver?

After examining some related threads, I have collected the following information:

For the laptop:
- The output of "/sbin/lspci -nn | grep VGA" is: nVidia Corporation Device [10de:0dfa] (rev a1)
I've looked at the purchase order for this, and confirmed that the laptop has an nVidia Quadro 1000M w/2G memory.
- The output of lsmod shows that the nouveau driver is being used.

For the servers:
- ATI Technologies Inc ES1000 [1002:515e] (rev 2)
- radeon driver

Can anyone explain how to resolve this issue so that I can take advantage of the higher resolutions that I know that laptop (if not the servers) can handle?

snowpine 03-16-2012 01:52 PM

1st of all, Fedora 14 is obsolete and end of life, you won't get any support, updates, or security fixes. Use the current Fedora 16 release (or use a slower-moving distro like Red Hat/CentOS if you want more than 13 months support).

2nd, Nvidia and ATI cards may require "nonfree" firmware/drivers, see here:

http://www.fedorafaq.org/

I would think the video resolution would be irrelevant on the servers?

Ronayn 03-16-2012 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snowpine (Post 4628554)
1st of all, Fedora 14 is obsolete and end of life, you won't get any support, updates, or security fixes. Use the current Fedora 16 release (or use a slower-moving distro like Red Hat/CentOS if you want more than 13 months support).

2nd, Nvidia and ATI cards may require "nonfree" firmware/drivers, see here:

http://www.fedorafaq.org/

I would think the video resolution would be irrelevant on the servers?


First, I am using Fedora 14 because I am required to. My company is currently upgrading from Fedora Core 6, so I am well aware of where we are in the chain of obsolescence.

Second, yes I know there are nonfree drivers, but I also know that Linux folk are crafty and amazing, so its likely someone knows how to make this work w/o having to resort to buying a driver (which I cannot do).

Third, why would I bring up servers if it wasn't relevant to me? One of the servers on the rack acts as a display, and I need as much realestate as I can get for the several GUI (my company designed) that must be shown. (Note: I dont need fancy graphic capability, just raw resolution.) While the servers' meager ES1000 may not be able to achieve 1920x1200 (though I dont know this for certain), I do know that the laptop with its video card should be able to.

snowpine 03-16-2012 02:24 PM

By "nonfree" I mean "proprietary/closed source" not "you are required to pay to use them." Sorry for the confusion...

Were the Fedora FAQ's "How do I enable 3D support for my ATI Radeon card in Fedora?" and
"How do I enable 3D support for my nVidia graphics card in Fedora?" helpful in answering your question?

John VV 03-16-2012 03:44 PM

in the DEAD fedora 14
( not good for a server ,the security holes that are fixed in fedora 16+ will NEVER be applied to 14
i guess your "company" WANTS the servers cracked and running botnets )

fedora uses the OPENSOURCE nouveau driver by DEFAULT for nvidia
if you NEED the nvidia.run you must ALSO rebuild the kernel module and boot image
or use the kmod-nvidia.rpm in the repos
see leigh123linux's guide
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=204752

you might need the proprietary nvidia.run driver or kmod

Ronayn 03-19-2012 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snowpine (Post 4628578)
By "nonfree" I mean "proprietary/closed source" not "you are required to pay to use them." Sorry for the confusion...

Were the Fedora FAQ's "How do I enable 3D support for my ATI Radeon card in Fedora?" and
"How do I enable 3D support for my nVidia graphics card in Fedora?" helpful in answering your question?

Heya Snowpine, sorry for the slow reply, I got switch to another project but now I am back on this. I am going to look over that link you sent now. Thanks.

Ztcoracat 03-25-2012 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snowpine (Post 4628578)
By "nonfree" I mean "proprietary/closed source" not "you are required to pay to use them." Sorry for the confusion...

Were the Fedora FAQ's "How do I enable 3D support for my ATI Radeon card in Fedora?" and
"How do I enable 3D support for my nVidia graphics card in Fedora?" helpful in answering your question?

Go Snowpine...ATI/Fedora/enable/3D/Support/

Ztcoracat 03-25-2012 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ztcoracat (Post 4635584)
Go Snowpine...ATI/Fedora/enable/3D/Support/

http://www.amd.com/us/products/deskt...00-series.aspx

Ronayn 03-26-2012 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snowpine (Post 4628578)
By "nonfree" I mean "proprietary/closed source" not "you are required to pay to use them." Sorry for the confusion...

Were the Fedora FAQ's "How do I enable 3D support for my ATI Radeon card in Fedora?" and
"How do I enable 3D support for my nVidia graphics card in Fedora?" helpful in answering your question?

Heya Snowpine, thanks again, the link was helpful in getting the laptop updated to the proper nVidia driver. However, the ATI ES1000 appears to be unsupported (not a big deal at the moment).

Also, and you are probably going to laugh, despite the new amazing resolution on the laptop, it turns out that Fedora 14 does not support the laptops network card! The laptop is one HP's newest offerings. LOL. I may have to go to F16 whether my boss likes it or not (unless you can suggest a link for solving that problem?)

snowpine 03-26-2012 10:23 AM

Let me know the chipset of your wireless card (you can use 'lspci' command) and I will try to help. As with video cards, some brands of wifi require a non-free driver/firmware that Fedora cannot distribute. :)

Ronayn 03-26-2012 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snowpine (Post 4636582)
Let me know the chipset of your wireless card (you can use 'lspci' command) and I will try to help. As with video cards, some brands of wifi require a non-free driver/firmware that Fedora cannot distribute. :)

Hello Snowpine,

lspci reported the following: nVidia Corporation Device [10de:0dfa] (rev a1)

I did some digging on the problem and found this link: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=264108

I'm mulling over my options at this point; and willing to take advice!

Thanks Again!

snowpine 03-26-2012 01:17 PM

Nope, that's your video card... try:

Code:

lspci | grep Wireless
Or just plain 'lspci' (with no arguments) and do the "eyeball-grep" (scan the output of lspci visually until you spot your wifi).

Ronayn 03-26-2012 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snowpine (Post 4636760)
Nope, that's your video card... try:

Code:

lspci | grep Wireless
Or just plain 'lspci' (with no arguments) and do the "eyeball-grep" (scan the output of lspci visually until you spot your wifi).

*sigh* Clearly, this will not be my week to shine.

I didn't see anything in the list with the word "Wireless", but lspci did report the following two items:

00:19.0 Ethernet Controller: Intel Corporation 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection (rev 04)

25:00.0 Network Controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 (rev 3e)


Also, let me clarify my problem... I am not concerned with wireless connectivity (not allowed to use that here), my problem is that the F14 OS does not "see" the laptops wired connection (which I expected to appear as eth0).

Your help has encourage me to do some more digging... I am going in the right direction with the following link?

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Sear...net+Controller

snowpine 03-26-2012 02:23 PM

Sorry, I assumed wireless. :)

A quick Google search tells me you need a driver called e1000e and that it works OK in Fedora 15+ but not in 14 unless you apply the following fix: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=257701

I cannot confirm/deny this will work (since I do not have the same hardware) but hopefully that steers you in the right direction. :)

Ronayn 03-28-2012 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snowpine (Post 4636812)
Sorry, I assumed wireless. :)

A quick Google search tells me you need a driver called e1000e and that it works OK in Fedora 15+ but not in 14 unless you apply the following fix: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=257701

I cannot confirm/deny this will work (since I do not have the same hardware) but hopefully that steers you in the right direction. :)


Thanks, it did! Oddly, the driver appears to work without that patch (perhaps the install had all the requirements already installed?) Anyhow, it appears to be working, so now I have a laptop with kick-butt resolution, and a working wired network.

Thanks again for all of your help, Snowpine.


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