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schneidz 11-26-2009 12:39 PM

fedora 12 live-usb won't boot
 
hi, i got the 64 bit version of fedora 12 on a live-usb but it wont boot my hp elitebook 6930p.
fedora 11 live-usb boots up fine on it.

i tested the fedora-12 usb on an older acer extensa 4620z and it boots fine.

what is up with the hp ?

paulsm4 11-26-2009 02:42 PM

Hi -

Why not provide just a tad more information so we might be able to help?

One thing you *did* say (or at least you implied - that's better than nothing ;)) is that your HP Elitebook 6930p supports USB boot and is configured to use it (Fedora 11/Live USB boots on this PC; Fedora 12/Live USB does't).

Another thing you said (implied ;))was that your Fedora 12/Live USB is bootable - it works on a different PC.

But exactly where/how does it fail? What happened *after* you powered on? Any error messages or warnings? Did you try any alternate Linux "boot" options? Try editing the contents of the USB? Any other investigation/troubleshooting?

And don't be afraid of that "caps" key :)

'Hope that helps .. PSM

schneidz 11-26-2009 08:15 PM

^ thanks paul, yes you implied correctly.

no error with the hp - it proceeds to boot into windows xp normally.

i'm not really sure what boot options would remedy this (especially since it doesnt provide a grub boot menu).

i used the dd method to create a bootable live-usb from the x86-64 iso (my pc just seems to ignore it when it starts up) ?

paulsm4 11-28-2009 01:44 PM

I Dunno ;)

Here's what I'm hearing:
Code:

                    Fedora 12/USB:      Fedora 11/USB:
                    -------------      -------------
HP Elitebook 6930p  IGNORES USB        OK: BOOTS FROM USB
Acer Extensa 4620z  OK: BOOTS FROM USB  N/A

Which implies:
1. Your HP is configured to boot USB (at least with Fedora 11)
2. Your Fedora 12 is a bootable USB (at least on the Acer)
3. Some combination of the Fedora 12 USB media and the HP BIOS is "preventing ignition"

I Dunno ;)

Suggestions:
1. Try burnng your Fedora 12 to a CD, and see if that boots.

2. Check potential "geometry" issues and/or try different format options with your USB:
http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Bootable_USB_Key
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-bios-boot-options/

3. Try downloading and formatting your USB with HP's boot utility, HPUSBFW.exe:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport...ctID=c01783843

4. Finally, here are a few things other people have run into; their experiences might provide a few clues:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...-stick-664033/
http://www.bootdisk.com/pendrive.htm
http://www.nu2.nu/mkbt/
...

'Hope that helps .. PSM

schneidz 11-29-2009 11:45 AM

^thx, i'll play around with your suggestions.
i find this interesting:
i mounted both usb's to fc-9 live cd (the fedora-11 usb disk label is referred to as disk-1):
Code:

[fedora@localhost ~]$ mount
/dev/mapper/live-rw on / type ext3 (rw,noatime)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
/dev/sr0 on /mnt/live type iso9660 (ro)
sunrpc on /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs type rpc_pipefs (rw)
fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/fedora/.gvfs type fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=fedora)
/dev/sdb2 on /media/disk type ext2 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
/dev/sdb1 on /media/disk-1 type ext2 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
/dev/sdc on /media/Fedora-12-x86_64-Live type iso9660 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,uid=500)

[fedora@localhost ~]$ df -h
Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/live-rw  4.0G  2.2G  1.9G  54% /
tmpfs                1011M  48K 1011M  1% /dev/shm
/dev/sr0              691M  691M    0 100% /mnt/live
gvfs-fuse-daemon      4.0G  2.2G  1.9G  54% /home/fedora/.gvfs
/dev/sdb2            3.7G  28K  3.5G  1% /media/disk
/dev/sdb1            3.7G  2.3G  1.3G  64% /media/disk-1
/dev/sdc              656M  656M    0 100% /media/Fedora-12-x86_64-Live

[fedora@localhost ~]$ ll -R /media
/media:
total 10
drwxrwxrwx 3 root  root 4096 2009-11-22 18:45 disk
drwxr-xr-x 5 root  root 4096 2009-06-22 16:15 disk-1
dr-xr-xr-x 5 fedora root 2048 2009-11-09 14:44 Fedora-12-x86_64-Live

/media/disk:
total 16
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 16384 2009-10-05 20:03 lost+found

/media/disk/lost+found:
total 0

/media/disk-1:
total 32
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 2009-06-22 16:17 LiveOS
drwx------ 2 root root 16384 2009-06-22 15:46 lost+found
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 2009-06-22 16:17 syslinux

/media/disk-1/LiveOS:
total 2311532
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root root      4096 2009-06-22 16:17 osmin.img
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3035627520 2009-06-22 16:17 overlay--43024672-bc3f-4c69-9741-5b475bab023e
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root root  713965568 2009-06-22 16:17 squashfs.img
ls: cannot open directory /media/disk-1/lost+found: Permission denied

/media/disk-1/syslinux:
total 9236
-r--r--r-- 1 root root    2048 2009-06-22 16:17 boot.cat
-r--r--r-- 1 root root    1117 2009-06-22 16:17 extlinux.conf
-r--r--r-- 1 root root  13824 2009-06-22 16:17 extlinux.sys
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 5181216 2009-06-22 16:17 initrd0.img
-r--r--r-- 1 root root  14336 2009-06-22 16:17 isolinux.bin
-r--r--r-- 1 root root  116720 2009-06-22 16:17 memtest
-r--r--r-- 1 root root  775160 2009-06-22 16:17 splash.jpg
-r--r--r-- 1 root root  147728 2009-06-22 16:17 vesamenu.c32
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 3118000 2009-06-22 16:17 vmlinuz0


/media/Fedora-12-x86_64-Live:
total 24
dr-xr-xr-x 3 fedora root  2048 2009-11-09 14:43 EFI
-r--r--r-- 1 fedora root 18363 2009-11-09 14:44 GPL
dr-xr-xr-x 2 fedora root  2048 2009-11-09 14:43 isolinux
dr-xr-xr-x 2 fedora root  2048 2009-11-09 14:45 LiveOS

/media/Fedora-12-x86_64-Live/EFI:
total 2
dr-xr-xr-x 2 fedora root 2048 2009-11-09 14:43 boot

/media/Fedora-12-x86_64-Live/EFI/boot:
total 15338
-r--r--r-- 2 fedora root      421 2009-11-09 14:43 bootx64.conf
-r-xr-xr-x 1 fedora root  225633 2009-11-09 14:43 bootx64.efi
-r--r--r-- 2 fedora root      421 2009-11-09 14:43 grub.conf
-r--r--r-- 2 fedora root 11321454 2009-11-09 14:43 initrd0.img
-r--r--r-- 2 fedora root    14336 2009-11-09 14:43 isolinux.bin
-r--r--r-- 2 fedora root    1031 2009-11-09 14:43 isolinux.cfg
-r--r--r-- 2 fedora root  160280 2009-11-09 14:43 memtest
-r--r--r-- 2 fedora root  390373 2009-11-09 14:43 splash.jpg
-r--r--r-- 1 fedora root    17488 2009-11-09 14:43 splash.xpm.gz
-r--r--r-- 2 fedora root  147728 2009-11-09 14:43 vesamenu.c32
-r--r--r-- 2 fedora root  3423296 2009-11-09 14:43 vmlinuz0

/media/Fedora-12-x86_64-Live/isolinux:
total 15101
-r--r--r-- 1 fedora root    2048 2009-11-09 14:48 boot.cat
-r--r--r-- 2 fedora root 11321454 2009-11-09 14:43 initrd0.img
-r--r--r-- 2 fedora root    14336 2009-11-09 14:43 isolinux.bin
-r--r--r-- 2 fedora root    1031 2009-11-09 14:43 isolinux.cfg
-r--r--r-- 2 fedora root  160280 2009-11-09 14:43 memtest
-r--r--r-- 2 fedora root  390373 2009-11-09 14:43 splash.jpg
-r--r--r-- 2 fedora root  147728 2009-11-09 14:43 vesamenu.c32
-r--r--r-- 2 fedora root  3423296 2009-11-09 14:43 vmlinuz0


/media/Fedora-12-x86_64-Live/LiveOS:
total 655287
-r-xr-xr-x 1 fedora root    23040 2009-11-09 14:44 livecd-iso-to-disk
-r-xr-xr-x 1 fedora root      8192 2009-11-09 14:45 osmin.img
-r-xr-xr-x 1 fedora root 670982144 2009-11-09 14:48 squashfs.img

stuff that deals with the boot directory seems to be different; i may have imaged the wrong iso.
i made the fedora-12 usb using this method:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo:
Quote:

Direct Copy

Starting with Fedora 12, .iso files can also be written directly to USB sticks using "dd" or similar tools. Please note this will overwrite any data on the targeted partition, and will also not create storage to support data persistence.
Code:

# dd if=Fedora-12-i686-Live.iso of=/dev/USBDEVICE

i made the original fedora-11 usb using the livecd-iso-to-disk command.

schneidz 12-06-2009 03:43 PM

^ nope, i reformatted it as fat32 and ran livecd-iso-to-disk on it and it still wont boot ?

Joe of Loath 12-06-2009 04:53 PM

If it's any help, fedora 12 wouldn't work for me using unetbootin, but would using the fedora live USB tool. Maybe give that a go?

schneidz 12-06-2009 06:41 PM

i think the livecd-iso-to-disk script is the non-gui version of the liveusb-creator

schneidz 12-07-2009 12:02 AM

progress: i reformatted it as ext3 but i dont get a grub menu at bootup. i get
Code:

loading grub stage 1.5...
grub error 17.

and it hangs forever.

thanks,

schneidz 12-07-2009 07:55 PM

i used the gui tool for creating live usb and was at least able to get a grub menu.
i am now getting this error rite after boot:
Code:

drhd: handling fault status reg f000674e
kernel panic - not syncing: dmar hardware is malfunctioning

edit: i had to add the boot flag iommu=soft and now i am able to get to the desktop.
but it is pretty slow so i will stick with fc-11 for now.

maithilish 04-21-2012 11:38 PM

Fedora USB Boot Error
 
I had Boot Error problem with Fedora 16 on my Core 2 Duo on Intel motherboard PC.

maithilish 04-21-2012 11:43 PM

Fedora USB Boot Error
 
I had Boot Error problem with Fedora 16 on my Core 2 Duo on Intel motherboard PC. I tried different options

1. create usbstick with liveusb-creator
2. create usbstick with livecd-iso-to-disk through
Code:

livecd-iso-to-disk --format --reset-mbr  Fedora-16-i686-Live-Desktop.iso /dev/sdb1
3. create zipdrive with mkdiskimage -4 /dev/sdb 0 63 62 on usbstick as mentioned in some posts for buggy BIOS.
4. dd if=Fedora-16-i686-Live-Desktop.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=8M

I was able to boot from usb when created through dd method. But i got Boot Error when usb is created with other methods.

Finally i got clue from a post where it was indicated that setting USB as HDD solved problem.

In my BIOS in BOOT menu has a option - USB Mass Storage Emulation Type which was Auto by default. I changed it All Fixed Disc. With this change I am finally able to boot from USB created either through liveusb-creator or livecd-iso-to-disk


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