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Old 01-23-2009, 04:34 AM   #1
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Fedora 10 won't boot after an install


Hi, I've installed Fedora 10 in my laptop, where I previously had FC6. The installation went smoothly and I did a clean install. THe system was installed int he following partitions:

/usr/local - 7GB
/usr - 10GB
/ - 12GB
/boot - 100MB
swap - 2GB
/home - 16MB (this was is not formatted but kept)

My laptop is an old Toshiba Sattelite100A:
Processor : Intel® Celeron M Processor 420 (1.6GHz, 533MHz FSB, L1 Cache 32KB/32KB, L2 Cache 1MB)
Memory : 2x512 MB DDR2 (533 MHz)
Hard Drive : 60.0 billion bytes, 9.5mm height, S-ATA, 5400rpm
Optical Drive : Built-in DVD Super-Multi Double Layer Drive
Display : 15.4” Wide XGA TFT Active Matrix colour LCD display
Graphics : ATi RADEON® XPRESS 200M with up to 128MB DDR shared video memo
Modem : V.92 56K Data/Fax Modem
Ethernet : 10/100 integrated Ethernet LAN
Wireless : Atheros Wireless LAN (802.11b/g)

After a succesful install, I rebooted and wasn't able to start the system - it got past GRUB in froze during booting. I had FC 5 & 6 running sucessfully without any problems on my laptop (didn't have any problems during their installation too), and I currently have Fedora8 on my desktop machine.

Any suggestions?
 
Old 01-23-2009, 06:27 AM   #2
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You need to find out where in the boot it fails at.
In the grub screen modify the kernel options and add the number "3" at the end so it boots into text mode, then you can see the details of the boot and where it gets stuck
 
Old 01-23-2009, 03:00 PM   #3
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Hi,

My first post might have been misleading. Fedora freezes after the FIRST reboot during the installation - after the installation of the packages. I did what you told me - I added a 3 at the end of the kernel arguments. The boot passes through a list of hardware checks, and then freezes. There is a three coloured status bar at the bottom of the boot when it freezes.
 
Old 01-23-2009, 03:19 PM   #4
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You can hit esc key to see what is being loaded in verbose mode, rather than the loading screen with the three colour bar. That should shed a bit more light on where the boot process is halting.
 
Old 01-23-2009, 05:32 PM   #5
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Hi,

It freezes at

starting udev:

Before that, here are some of the other messages:

Could not detectd stabilization, waiting 10 seconds
.
.
type=1404 audit(1232723479.905:2):enforcing=1 old_enforcing=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
type=1403 audit(1232723479.595:3)olicy loaded auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
.
.
Starting Fedora
.
.
starting udev:


Do you think this can be caused by some HDD error? Because my hardware installed correctly in older Fedora versions?
 
Old 01-23-2009, 08:43 PM   #6
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ONE thing I forgot to mention is that I did the installation in text mode (I hit ESC at the setup, and then typed linux text), because the graphic install stalled at the disk partitioning.
 
Old 01-23-2009, 09:24 PM   #7
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Check your BIOS for USB Legacy enabled or disabled. Which ever one it's set to, switch it and try a boot. This has caused some people the same problem you describe.

You can try to narrow this down a bit more by booting with the bare minimum hardware plugged in. (mouse, keyboard, monitor and internal hardware) This will help determine if it's an extra piece of hardware like a printer or extra usb device causing the hang.

Another is to boot init 3 (no GUI), this will let you know if it's your video card causing the problem and allow you to yum update from the console then try a normal boot again.

If none of this creates a solution than:

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because the graphic install stalled at the disk partitioning
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/home - 16MB (this was is not formatted but kept)
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Do you think this can be caused by some HDD error?
You may just be onto something yourself here. Boot from a live disk, backup the files in that /home directory that you want to keep if you haven't already and try installing again, this time don't keep any of the old partitions and see how that goes.
 
Old 01-23-2009, 10:25 PM   #8
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the problem most likely your old "ATi RADEON® XPRESS 200M " chipset .
from what i recall ati dose not support the NEW xorg in fedora 9 and 10 for that chipset .
you might want to read through this forum thread
" Howto for fglrx (Ati driver) and Compiz-fusion"
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=155503
 
Old 01-23-2009, 10:37 PM   #9
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the problem most likely your old "ATi RADEON® XPRESS 200M " chipset .
from what i recall ati dose not support the NEW xorg in fedora 9 and 10 for that chipset .
you might want to read through this forum thread
" Howto for fglrx (Ati driver) and Compiz-fusion"
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=155503
My laptop has that video card, Fedora 10 ran live, installed perfectly, no conflict. I also installed the ATI driver and haven't had a problem with it at all. I'm tired and missed the hardware specs, in the very first post too. So I'd say that rules out the video card causing the problem.
 
Old 01-24-2009, 11:42 AM   #10
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Hi,

1. I formated the entire section dedicated to Linux, still the same thing
2. I could not boot with init 3 - I think because the system is not installed yet entirely, rememeber that this happens after the first reboot during the installation, after the installation of the packages. So I haven;t setup my user yet.
3. THe USB didn't work either.

At GRUB I typed 'e', then 'e' at the kernel, then added a '3' at the end of the argument list and pressed 'b'. Then I hit 'ESC' when that screen with the status bar appeared. Here is the output on the my screen:


Loading 12c-core module.
Loading 12c-algo-bit module.
Loading drm module.
Loading radeon module.
Setting up hotplug.
Creating block device nodes.
Creating character device nodes.
Loading sata_sil module
ata1: SATA link up to 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 300)
ata1.00: ATA-7: TOSHIBA MK6034GSX, AH101M, max UDMA/100
ata1.00: 117210240 sectors, multi 16: LBA48 NCQ (dept 0/32)
ata1.00: configured for UDMA/100
ata2: SATA link down (SStatus 0 Control 300)
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 117210240 512-byte hardware sectrors (60012 MB)
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 117210240 512-byte hardware sectrors (60012 MB)
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4 < sda5 sda6 sda7 >
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
Loading pata_acpi module
pata_acpi 0000:00:14.1: PCI INT a -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
Loading ata_generic module
Waiting for driver initilization
Could not detect driver stabilization, waiting 10 seconds
Creating root device
Mounting root filesystem
kjournald starting. COmmit interval 5 seconds
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
Setting up other filesystems.
type=1404 audit(1232788731.594:2): enforcing=1 old_enforcing=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
type=1403 audit(1232788732.044:3): policy loaded auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
Switching to new root and running init
Welcome to Fedora
Press 'I' to enter interactive startup
starting udev:


I don't understand all of it, but what bothers me are those lines:

sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0

I don't have an SCSI disk or a SCSI controller.

Also it seems that the boot has a problem here:
Loading ata_generic module
Might be there a problem with the ATA interface??

Last edited by i1983; 01-24-2009 at 11:45 AM. Reason: spell fx
 
Old 01-24-2009, 12:23 PM   #11
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Press 'I' to enter interactive startup
Do that and don't load udev, see where that gets you.
 
Old 01-24-2009, 03:37 PM   #12
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ONE thing I forgot to mention is that I did the installation in text mode (I hit ESC at the setup, and then typed linux text), because the graphic install stalled at the disk partitioning.
the gui would be fine just set up a custom layout .it wont reformat anything you don't tell it to

instead of just reformatting only " section dedicated to Linux" -- is that fedora 10 only?
redo the whole drive there may be multiple "boot" partitions now
also unless there is some VERY good reason YOU need /usr/local , Fedora dose not use it ,so that will be a wasted partition
also /home SHOULD be about 10 gig ( not 16 meg )
--------
/boot 78 to 100 meg ( default is 100 meg)
/ -- aprox 15 to 30 gig
/home -- aprox 5 to 10 gig
swap -- aprox 1.5 to 2 times ram ( 2 to 6 gig)

-- optional --
/usr/opt -- a large data partition ( music,videos,photos, other files) 100+ gig
or use /mnt/data, /mnt/MyStuff,/opt/MyStuff, ...
 
  


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