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Old 02-19-2009, 12:05 AM   #31
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Just wanted to share my crappy experience with trying to get the Nvidia 180.22 official drivers installed on Fedora 10. In summary: FAIL! I can't even get into the X server anymore. I get multiple errors about monitors not being found, Nvidia drivers not being present, and some other errors that I can't recall. Currently I am back to my Windows Vista OS to type this up.
 
Old 02-19-2009, 12:10 AM   #32
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Micro420 why not install the rpmfusion repo and install
Code:
yum install akmod-nvidia
fedora 10 no longer requires a xorg.conf
"F10 Howto for the rpmfusion nvidia drivers "
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=204752
 
Old 02-19-2009, 02:13 AM   #33
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Thanks, John VV. I have to say that I am really hesitant to install RPM's from 3rd party repositories. In the past, I have noticed that they end up breaking my system because they want to install their own libraries and files that don't work well with other dependencies on the system. Is there another way to get Nvidia drivers on Fedora 10 through some official method? I used to be a CentOS 5 lover and the official Nvidia drivers worked fine with it. I find it odd that Fedora would ditch the xorg.conf. Just more confusion amongst Linux distros, I guess. (Ubuntu has no /etc/inittab!)
 
Old 02-19-2009, 02:32 AM   #34
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hesitant to install RPM's from 3rd party repositories. In the past, I have noticed that they end up breaking my system because they want to install their own libraries and files that don't work well with other dependencies
well that blob .run installer will install different openGL than is used by fedora and the akmod-nvidia

for the .run i use i need to reinstall mesa-libGL ,mesa-libGLU, mesa-libGL-devel, mesa-libGLU-devel
so as to REPLACE the ones that NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.10-pkg1.run installed on top of mesa .
the only reason i use this driver is, THIS driver supports my gforce2 card AND the NEW xorg in fedora 9 and 10
the recommended driver is the kmod-nvidia or the akmod-nvidia

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Old 02-19-2009, 07:18 PM   #35
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You said F10 is designed to work without xorg.conf. When I delete it, it is auto generated by livna-config-display. Could this be part of the problem?

Here is what it just generated when I removed it and rebooted:

Code:
# Xorg configuration created by livna-config-display

Section "Files"
        ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia"
        ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
        Option      "AIGLX" "on"
EndSection

Section "Device"
        Identifier  "Videocard0"
        Driver      "nvidia"
        Option      "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
        Option      "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection
 
Old 02-19-2009, 09:24 PM   #36
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I just did a reinstall of F10 from the live CD I created in nov 08. Then I

1. did a yum update
2. while this was running, updated yum.conf and created /etc/rpm/macros to support rpm rollback. I wish I did this before a yum update caused nvidia to quit working.
3. added rpmfusion
4. did yum update until it was happy
5. installed akmod and rebooted

NVIDIA now works! WOOT! Thanks for all our help, John.

At least with yum.log and rpm rollback, hopefully now I can quickly undo and diagnose and updates or installs that mess it up. If something does mess it up, I'll post it in this forum so others can hopefully benefit.

MINOR RANT:

One downside to nvidia config/drivers is you won't know you toasted them until next reboot. One thing I love about *nux is that I can go a long time without rebooting. I have a FreeBSD system that has been up 3 years since last boot. Only reason I booted it then was cuz I moved it into my new house. I don't like the thought of rebooting more often just so I have less yum updates to diagnose when things do break.

I also don't know how a non-technical user is going to begin to use non-free drivers. I was convinced Linux was ready for the desktop and home users until this experience. I'll qualify that to be only if they don't need more than onboard video or proprietary drivers.

On the plus side, this definately helps me become a huge advocate of vendor support for open source drivers that can do everything their Windows counterparts can do.
 
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so erik777 you reinstalled a kmod-nvidia or a akmod-nvidia ?
that part of the .conf looks fine
and is this how you installed it
from rpmfusion
kmod
Code:
su
yum install kmod-nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.i386 
reboot
akmod
Code:
su
yum install akmod-nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.i386 
reboot
 
Old 02-19-2009, 09:44 PM   #38
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I reinstalled the OS, Fedora 10. Fortunately, I wasn't so deep into its use that I couldn't do that.

As for akmod, I installed it the same way every time, copying and pasting from the forum page that has instructions for installing nvidia on F9 and F10 (I have it bookmarked on my other computer). It is close to if not the same as what you have.

The bottom line is I was doing everything right. Something was hosed, and a clean reinstall of the OS corrected it. We'll never know why it was hosed. But, if it happens again, I'll be on top of it, and be able to revert!

Thanks, again, John. It is people like you, helping others, that make having issues a lot less traumatic, and make the world a better place to live.
 
Old 02-21-2009, 12:19 AM   #39
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I deleted my xorg.conf file that Nvidia created for me and my generic X11 is working again. I'll just wait until Fedora 11 comes out. Maybe they will fix this Nvidia driver issue. Fortunately I don't need Fedora 10 for production purposes, just pure testing and for fun. I currently use real Red Hat servers and CentOS servers at my work for production work. Those guys are solid
 
Old 02-21-2009, 03:20 AM   #40
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Maybe they will fix this Nvidia driver issue.
no the won't fix nvidia's .run installer
in order for nvidia's .run to work on all *nix if must overwrite the system openGL -- fact of life ,and will not chance --
The Fedora.rpm's are built with the mesa that fedora uses AND NOT from nividia's OWN version of GL
if you use the .run then you MUST also use nvidia's xorg.conf , because it( the .run) installs some things under different names and in different places than the rpm.
 
Old 02-21-2009, 10:53 AM   #41
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Then going back to my original problem, is it because of Nvidia's xorg.conf that the X environment won't work in Fedora 10? Fedora 10 doesn't like xorg.conf anymore? I get all these weird errors about how the screen is missing. I've tried playing around with the xorg.conf file, but it still wouldn't acknowledge it and gave me the same errors.

Good news is that CentOS 5.3 is coming out probably next week. One of the lead guys came back from his honeymoon and is promptly working on pushing CentOS 5.3 out. At least I know everything "just works" with CentOS, including the official Nvidia drivers, the way it is supposed to be done.
 
Old 02-21-2009, 12:56 PM   #42
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I get all these weird errors about how the screen is missing
what errors ? and what is the card ?
what are the errors in /var/log/xorg.0.log ?
and are these lines in the xorg.conf
for the rpm ( rpmfusion)
Code:
Section "Files"
	ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia"
	ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers"
	ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
EndSection
nvidia.run
Code:
Section "Files"
	ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions"
	ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers"
	ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"

       # ModulePath      "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/fonts"      - optional
      #  ModulePath      "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/multimedia"     - optional

EndSection
and if .run is mesa reinstalled ( only needed for a few things to work - my celestia svn builds for ex.)
Code:
yum  reinstall mesa-libGL mesa-libGLU mesa-libGL-devel mesa-libGLU-devel
 
  


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