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smiley_lauf 03-12-2006 09:17 AM

FC5 development release and FC5 official release- where is the DVD iso?
 
3 quick questions:

1. Will there be a difference in the official release due on the 20th and the current dev release (except for bug fixes offcourse). If I install the dev release now will I have to uinstall it to install official release, or can I just do a dist-upgrade? If so could you point me to the relevent syntax to do this, or method to get this done.

2. I looked at the FC website download page, there is no mention of the DVD iso, I would rather have all the 4 CD on one DVD download. Where is the DVD iso download link?

3. How much disc space do I need to install FC: I am intentending to install the GNOME DE, all internet, Office, Multimedia, (NO GAMES), Networking, only. I am planning to have 5G allocated to FC5.

Again, thank you all for the help.
regards,
Smiley

reddazz 03-12-2006 09:28 AM

  1. You can upgrade from a development release to a stable release. All you need to do is download and install the fedora-release rpm of the stable release and then run "yum upgrade".
  2. When the stable release is out, there will be dvds available.
  3. That depends on what packages you choose to install. I install FC5 dev release on a 7.5 gig partition with GNOME, OO, java, multimedia, internet apps etc and the disk space used so far is about 4gigs.

smiley_lauf 03-12-2006 10:50 AM

Thanks Vusi,

It is always a pleasure to hear from you. You might have seen my previous post on the multiboot issue. I have not been able to get the art perfected yet, but it seems SUSE may come to my rescue in getting GRUB to id all the OSs on each partition.

I was owndering if there are tutorials on getting my ATI Mobility FireGL V5000 to work on PClinuxOS, FC5 and Mandriva. So far I have checked each of the wikis and documentation, but I am not comfortable following those. In Ubuntu, a very simple and easy to follow got my display working in under 5 minutes, with 3D working fine. My biggest difficulty is easy to follow documentation guide for the newbie.

Also, BTW, how did you get your GNOME desktop to look so mean?! Is that on FC or Mandriva or centOS.?

regards,
Smiley

reddazz 03-12-2006 11:22 AM

I am sure Suse will detect all your other OSes fine, but if it doesn't its not too difficult to add them to Suses grub config file. Just make a note of the root partitions of all your distros, the kernels you wish to boot and the initrd if one exists (I tend to keep a little notebook for myself with such notes).

As for ATI, I can't be of much help. I tend to only use nvidia based graphics cards on my desktops. When getting laptops, I look for those with nvidia, sis or intel based graphics. Its a pity that ATI makes really good hardware but won't build better drivers or help the opensource community build better ones.

My GNOME desktop is from FreeBSD 6.0 (I recommend you try it once you get to grips with Linux). I got the wallpaper (its called fyre & gimp) and icons from gnome-look.org (snowy something, I can't remember the exact name). I moved some applets from the bottom panel to the top panel, then changed the width and height of the bottom panel to make the icons look bigger.

smiley_lauf 03-12-2006 11:51 AM

Any suggestions about installing the latest beta 6 SUSE now, or should I wait for the official release (seems to be pushed back each time I check). I am comfortable with Dapper (I must say it is not a resource hog at all, and have navigated thru quite well with this dev release). So I do not feel like I am totally out in the cold with betas? How about the FC5 beta, shoudl I download and install?

Thanks again.

seimour 03-12-2006 12:00 PM

2. If you're wondering where the dvd isos are, you m8 look on the bittorrent section. That's the place where I grabbed previous release (2nd).

/me First post? )edit: no, second(

Hope it helps!

reddazz 03-12-2006 12:05 PM

The FC5 test releases seem to be quite stable. The development is slowing down now and they are concentrating on fixing bugs. FC5 works really well on my system and I have not had any show stoppers. As for Suse 10.1, I have not tried the latest beta but other people say that its very buggy. If you have the hard disk space and time to tinker, then download and install both FC5 and Suse 10.1 test releases. As long as you are not using these OSes as production environments, I don't see a problem with using them.

smiley_lauf 03-12-2006 12:36 PM

Is there a link to the FC5 test release DVD iso you can share with me...I am sure there must be one? Downloading 4 iso's (SUSE has 5!!!) is not my cup-o-tea. thanks

EDIT: tried the FC5 test release bitorrent section, yes there are DVD iso there. But here is the thing, it tells me that it will take 3-4 days to dl that brat! Ami missing something, or is my bitorrent download application not configured properly. I have a fairly fast network and quite close to the mirror, what is it that I need to accelerate the download.

reddazz 03-12-2006 12:44 PM

Why don't you download the rescue cd and do a network install. All you would need to do a network install is your internet settings, the ftp or http server you wish to install from and the path to the Fedora Core directory e.g. the mirror could be something like ftp://mirror.linux.duke.edu and the path to the fedora devel installation would be pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/.

There are some scripts available to convert the 4 isos to DVD, but I have not tried them. Take a look here.

smiley_lauf 03-12-2006 01:01 PM

Thank you all.

Gethyn 03-12-2006 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smiley_lauf
tried the FC5 test release bitorrent section, yes there are DVD iso there. But here is the thing, it tells me that it will take 3-4 days to dl that brat! Ami missing something, or is my bitorrent download application not configured properly. I have a fairly fast network and quite close to the mirror, what is it that I need to accelerate the download.

Bit Torrent is a P2P filesharing transfer method, so unlike the ftp downloads you are downloading from other users, not a central server. The speed will almost certainly be limited by their upload speed, not your download speed. A common problem with torrents is also that many people tend to leech, i.e. they complete the download and then disconnect, rather than sharing the file until their upload:download ratio is 1 or higher.

seimour 03-13-2006 01:38 PM

3-4 days to download?

What kind of connection do you have? If you're using a dialup better wait for the final release and grab it with a mag or contact any of those cd-retailers, but for me (using a 1Mbit adsl) only took some hours, not even a day an it went like a charm at 106kb/s constantly.

Consider that if you set BT upload speed to 1kb you won't download at the maximum speed! (and you'll be another leecher)


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