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Old 10-04-2013, 12:06 AM   #1
kaza
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FC19+KDE+Nautilus: no way to leave icons unsorted in folders?


Hello,

I recently upgraded from FC17 to F19. The desktop GUI is KDE
but I still use Nautilus as a file manager. Under FC17, it was possible
to leave folder icons view "unsorted" allowing me to decide, where
within the rectangle of a folder would I like to place icons
of every launcher/forler/file. After upgrading to FC19
I discovered that there is no option to leave the folder unsorted:
when selecting "View as a grid of icons" and opening "View options"
I must select some sorting criteria, there is no "unsorted" option.

Can anything be done with it (except for finding the Nautilus sources,
finding where is the code doing the icons sort, changing it
and recompiling, for which I probably won't have time before
the next Fedora version comes out)?

The "Nautilus"-related packages versions I currently run:

Code:
<localhost.localdomain>rpm -qa | grep nautilus
file-roller-nautilus-3.8.3-1.fc19.x86_64
nautilus-extensions-3.8.2-1.fc19.x86_64
brasero-nautilus-3.8.0-1.fc19.x86_64
nautilus-sendto-3.8.0-1.fc19.x86_64
nautilus-3.8.2-1.fc19.x86_64
evince-nautilus-3.8.3-2.fc19.x86_64
nautilus-image-converter-0.3.1-0.5.git430afce31.fc19.x86_64
nautilus-python-1.1-4.fc19.x86_64
totem-nautilus-3.8.2-1.fc19.x86_64
TIA,
kaza.
 
Old 10-04-2013, 01:20 AM   #2
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Hi:

Quote:
Can anything be done with it (except for finding the Nautilus sources,
I thought that the File Management Preference would of given a choice but I was wrong.
I also looked in the Settings Editor which was the only thing I found remotely close to what your looking for.

The only other thing I can think of is try looking in Edit> Preferences> Views
Open your file manager and click on Edit upon doing so in the drop down menu you should have:
"Configure Custom Actions"
You could also look in /usr/bin/nautilus

Use Google and see if "Customizing File Browsing Behavior" in the Fedora documentation works--

I'm using Thunar 1.6.3- It works pretty well.
http://s1052.photobucket.com/user/Ul...ditor.png.html

Maybe another member will know a way around this-

http://www.techotopia.com/index.php/...a_File_Manager
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KDE410
 
Old 10-05-2013, 04:32 PM   #3
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Hi Ztcoracat,

thanks for the reply.

I'm using the KDE desktop (used GNOME until GNOME 3 forced me to use KDE,
couldn't keep it as useful as GNOME 2) but I'm still using the Nautilus
as my file manager. So, the standard menus like "File Manager settings"
can't work as in KDE they deal with another file manager.
I just installed "gtweakui", tested "gtweakui-nautilus", the only
relevant checkmark was "Always use browser mode" but I didn't see
it affecting anything. If I knew where the configurations files
of Nautilus are located I could try editing them but so far I didn't find any.

BTW, there are more "removed customizations" I found in Nautilus of FC19:
I used to have one default view of all folders and I could assign a different
view for a particular folder, now I only see one "global" vew setting
and no way yo customise each folder view.

And, the ability to open each folder in a different window had gone too. :-(

I so got used to Nautilus, can something be done (some files tweaked?) for it
to be as customizable as before?

TIA,
kaza.
 
Old 10-05-2013, 06:43 PM   #4
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It's said in this Fedora forum that finding the nautilus file in Fedora 17 was impossible.

With Fedora 18 the nautilus file was in ~/.config/nautilus/accels
But that was under Gnome 3.8. I know your running the KDE DE-

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showth...17#post1623417

Quote:
can something be done (some files tweaked?) for it
to be as customizable as before
Yes, that is if you have the file.
I found the file when I used "locate nautilus" in my terminal-
Which lead me to /usr/share/xfce/helpers/nautilus.desktop

It may be that KDE has some kind of a conflict with nautilus and perhaps that's why you don't have that file. Try running:
Code:
locate nautilus
You mentioned that there is no way you can customise each folder view.
That makes me suspicious of your install Or the KDE envirnment-

I say that because I do have a way to customise and they are:
-View as icons
-View as detailed list and
-View as compact list
If I knew how to manipulate virtualization software I'd try FC 19 with KDE and test for you.
Sorry that I don't.

One of our Guru's here at LQ: John VV is very good with Red Hat and Fedora.
He has given me wise couscel in the past so (if anyone knows) I think he's the man that would know what is really going on here.


Quote:
BTW, there are more "removed customizations" I found in Nautilus of FC19:
That doesn't surprse me.
Keep in mind that Fedora is Red Hat's R&D (test bed)and a lot of things change from release to new release. The home directory changes with each new release.


Fedora 19 came with Thunar. Have you found that Thunar doesn't work for you?
 
  


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