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JZL240I-U 02-25-2013 05:09 AM

F18 doesn't install, needs (nonexistent) net. With net, no reaction either.
 
This is really annoying. I'm trying to install F18 and there is no chance to install without a connection to the net. I got a stick for a mobile connection, got net all right and still fedora stalls at the same popup. Any ideas how to proceed from here?

business_kid 02-26-2013 04:49 AM

F18 installs. The installer is obtuse, and awkward. Most have managed to get past it. A search in
http://bugzilla.redhat.comfor open bugs on the installer is informative. You might piggy back on someone else's experience that way. Otherwise, post an account of how far you got, and exactly what went wrong. The PrtScr key takes a screenshot which is saved in ~/Pictures, and that's very handy. You might file your own bug (I did).

JZL240I-U 02-26-2013 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by business_kid (Post 4899925)
...Otherwise, post an account of how far you got, and exactly what went wrong...

Easy.
  • I start the system from a live USB-stick.
  • Login as "livesystemuser".
  • Click on "install to hard trive".
  • Choice of language and keyboard layout -> german
  • Continue
  • Popup: "We need an internet connection to get information and updates" {approximate translation}
  • Only one button to carry on: "Configure..."
  • (with no internet this is the endpoint of the installation)
    ...
  • (Okay, got a mobile stick)
  • Configure doesn't work, i.e. nothing happens :mad:
  • Click on the network setting in the task bar, upper right corner (not "Configure..."-button)
  • Configure and get no connection, network broken down. I'll finish this later but it doesn't work either.
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Originally Posted by business_kid (Post 4899925)
...The PrtScr key takes a screenshot which is saved in ~/Pictures, and that's very handy. You might file your own bug (I did).

That I doubt. The harddisk / partitions are not even mounted yet and the stick should be read only as far as I know.

business_kid 02-27-2013 04:49 AM

I installed from the DVD. It's a disaster, but there were grey on grey buttons in the top right and bottom left corners - things like "Continue," "Next," or "Done." I remember that screen. There is another button. I'd have to find the dvd and run it to tell you where it is. you don't get anything special from setting up the network anyhow. That just dumps you back where you were.

If you can't see them, maybe screen size is too big? Fedora are winning no prizes for this installer, but that isn't one of the usual deathtraps in it. Wait till you get to set up your disks!

JZL240I-U 02-27-2013 05:45 AM

Internet is back with the living...

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Originally Posted by business_kid (Post 4900669)
I installed from the DVD.

The DVD is a 4.3 GB iso, while the live iso is only 916 MB. And since I'm living in the country I only have a mobile acces via UMTS-stick thus I face volume restrictions...


Quote:

Originally Posted by business_kid (Post 4900669)
...but there were grey on grey buttons in the top right and bottom left corners - things like "Continue," "Next," or "Done." I remember that screen ... If you can't see them, maybe screen size is too big?

No, that is not the reason, that popup is displayed on the left side of the screen with room to spare on both sides.

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Originally Posted by business_kid (Post 4900669)
... Wait till you get to set up your disks!

*tremble* ;)

That is, if I ever come that far...

<edit> Currently installation hangs after choice of language. Clicking "continue" simply produces no reaction at all. Only difference to yesterday: I installed Chakra... </edit>

business_kid 02-28-2013 04:46 AM

Well, that isn't enough to install F18, it seems. Have you tried simply configuring 127.0.0.1 as localhost and pressing continue? I take it you don't have access to an internet cafe or other connection and that the usb disk does not have 4.3G space? We're talking a netbook here? No wifi in College/school/work/friends? Slackware-14.0 dvd is 2.7G, IIRC if that helps. I'm sure others are also under 4G.
BTW, if there's a wifi thing in there, Fedora is good at finding it. the wireless tools are called by the setup program. Older versions of distros had allowances for the 'no network' situation. Ubuntu installs from a single cd (or used to), but you don't get much beyond the essentials. Mandriva & SuSE also, iirc.

JZL240I-U 02-28-2013 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by business_kid (Post 4901483)
Well, that isn't enough to install F18, it seems. Have you tried simply configuring 127.0.0.1 as localhost and pressing continue?...

No, the installation currently gets stuck in the first screen, where one choses the language. No request for internet at this point.


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Originally Posted by business_kid (Post 4901483)
I take it you don't have access to an internet cafe or other connection and that the usb disk does not have 4.3G space? ...

No other connection, but I do have a 8 GB stick. What are you saying, can one put the DVD.iso on an USB-stick (via dd)?

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Originally Posted by business_kid (Post 4901483)
We're talking a netbook here?...

Right. Acer One.

Quote:

Originally Posted by business_kid (Post 4901483)
Slackware-14.0 dvd is 2.7G, IIRC if that helps. I'm sure others are also under 4G ... Ubuntu installs from a single cd (or used to), but you don't get much beyond the essentials. Mandriva & SuSE also, iirc.

This is not the problem. There is currently SuSE 12.2, Ubuntu 12.04, Mint 14, Chakra 2013.02, Fedora 17 and FreeBSD 9.1 on the netbook. I just want to update Fedora 17.

business_kid 02-28-2013 05:29 AM

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No, the installation currently gets stuck in the first screen, where one choses the language. No request for internet at this point.
Well, it has no excuse for sticking there. Suspect the download.

JZL240I-U 02-28-2013 05:33 AM

I checked it with sha256sum. It is okay.


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