I'm getting sick of this. Things have been getting progressively worse each Fedora release, and I've had enough.

My mouse buttons all work, and my monitor and graphics card were auto-detected. Anaconda had the bare faced cheek to run at full resolution.
Firefox is blistering quick, and my extensions seem to work. It's not even using all my RAM.
TV through mplayer? Unfortunately yes, straight from YUM.
Fluxbox is in GDM/KDM. I can choose it as my default session.
SELinux hasn't had the common decency to get in my way.
VPN worked first time, and Evolution got my mail from my work's Exchange server. I'm sure you can imagine how distressing that experience was.
NetworkManager apparently thinks it's OK to operate in a way which doesn't annoy me, and unfortunately I've had to leave it switched on.

To add insult to injury, it boots from cold in about 25 seconds.

Who's responsible for this disaster? Years of hacking at xorg.conf have been wasted. I haven't had to compile anything. No config files were harmed, and no kernel modules were modprobed.

It's disgusting.

Dave

What a pile of crap it must be.

Downloaded this morning, so I'm looking forward to trying it.

Does it use ext4 by default (I believe I heard it was going to)? If so, did you use it? Does it require an updated grub in the MBR?

It is ext4 by default on fresh installs and it will require you to have a separate boot partition (grub doesn't yet work with ext4 partitions). I upgraded with preupgrade and it kept my ext3 filesystem (which I am really glad to see since I did not want to do a completely fresh install.)

I have to say that I am disappointed, too. I have not done a fresh install on this laptop since F8. I have used preupgrade each time, and Fedora does it seamlessly each time; doesn't break anything, from kernel 2.6.22 all the way through to 2.6.29. Nothing to fix/repair. Takes all the fun out of it, doesn't it?

My boot time is not the 20 second boot that was advertised, though. Mine is more like 45sec - 1min. I guess that is some consolation.

Bob

Hmm - may need to go with ext3 then since I'm maxed out on partitions on my play drive.

Hi, a newbie Fedora user since RH 6.2 and last distro FC9.

As ilikejam I too will do a fresh install and lament the fact of not being able
to spend ages fixing things and just running apps with hardware that works.
I can't wait to find out how boring this can become

great work guys and dolls !

albertbeach

OMG, you have no idea what sudden rush of adrenaline you gave me when I saw the title in the forum. I was like, wtf, how can they say that, especially since I've been seeing through the progress it made since beta. I was about to go bombastic all over you

Nice way to put though hehe.

PS: And yeah, its 19 secs here

Very disgusting!

I almost don't feel like a geek!

-C

hey does any one know if fedora fixed the part where it couldnt boot from a SATA drive?

I agree, F11 x64 is a complete bust.

It recognized my wireless network right away, GRUB found all the "other" OS partitions and automatically added them; to include the POST and GRUB wait times, I have to wait a whopping 35 seconds to the log-in screen; my SATA drives all work; all my USB peripherals worked right after the install; my "other" applications work in WINE; my sound card was detected and runs great.

Adding software and running FireFox under Gnome at the same time use an entire 500K of my 4G of RAM. My swap file is sitting there empty. My quad core AMD has yet to exceed 40% on a single core.

What a waste of hard drive space and time.

(Tongue planted FIRMLY in cheek)

SATA drives have worked since at least FC4 in my case.

I'm sorry to say the things were not better to me either.
After tweaking a bit in the services it got almost 18.000 ms to display the graphical login screen on my autodetect radeon card (HD3850) and autodetect 22" wide LCD. I guess my SATA II 32MBytes of cache and 7500rpm has nothing to do altought.

And I guess something is very wrong with my firefox beta, because it is displaying videos without any installed plugin ! How come ? What they did with the joy of the manual install of several additional programs after a fresh install?

Yes, linux is not ready to the desktop...

...BTW what's up with the fast boot time? 23 seconds from start button to desktop...

Why does the Fedora Project keep insisting on making every release better than the previous one?

-C

(FWIW Dell Latitude D520 Intel Core 2 Duo T5500 1.66 GHz w/ 4 GB RAM)

Hi can I borrow somebody's machine.Here it is like working in molasses I upgrade from 10 to 11 this afternoon and everything has slowed down. I am a two fingered typist and I am getting ahead of the words as I type.
I see that I am using 100% of my Celeron 2.4Ghz CPU I have 56% of Total Memory Free, Physical Memory is 12% Free,37 % Disk Cache and 49% Application Data. I am using only 21% of the swap memory.

Any ideas guys this is bugging me I have Swept the System and I will do a complete close down and ReBoot but The next thing I am thinking of is to reinstall 10

Stuart

I'd do a clean install of F11. Upgrades seem to cause all manner of problems half the time.

Thanks to this thread I've installed Fedora (on my laptop) for the first time in many Fedora releases (I think the last was FC3, which sucked).

I'm already pretty charmed by it. I have gotten to a point in my life/career where I want to focus my energies on tinkering and troubleshooting server issues, not configuring my desktop. It's a welcome breath of fresh air to have an OS do it for me.

I installed from the Fedora 11 live cd, which broke during the filesystem formatting process. (I had some rather exotic partitioning and mounting requirements, but I was still a little disappointed.) A second go at it formatted and installed successfully.

I was so happy to see Fedora's friendly little network manager detect and enable my wireless connection without any of the other crud I've had to go through on Linux in the past: compiling madwifi and wpa_supplicant from source; writing my own init script for wpa_supplicant; tweaking the broken chkconfig init script ordering, etc. That alone is big points in my book.

GNOME is pretty - I haven't used it in ages and it's come a long way. I even have a battery status monitor that I didn't have to install and configure myself.

Boot time in my case (on a Dell Latitude D610 w/ 1GB RAM and Intel Pentium M 2.0GHz CPU) was 49 seconds. That's after I subtracted BIOS POST, Grub timeout, and the time it takes to enter my encrypted partition passphrase. I would point out that I'm syncing my system clock via ntpdate at boot time, so that surely adds a couple seconds to the startup.

I was a irritated to see all the crap (read: services) that is turned on by default, but that's par for the course for Red Hat, unfortunately.

All in all, I really dig it so far.

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edit: I'd like to add that after running all my yum updates, boot time is down to just 39 seconds. (That's from the time I enter my encrypted partition passphrase to the time I receive a login prompt.)