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Old 01-16-2004, 03:35 PM   #1
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Comming back to Fedora Core...


...or as I like to call it Red Hat.

But, I am tainted. I have tried Slackware and I noticed that Slackware loaded Gnome pretty quick, why? The computer was the same one I had Red Hat on, so why does it load Gnome faster? So I want to strip my Red Hat (or Fedora Core whatever) install down for speed, and I want to have some more options in window managers.

so what is the best way to approach this situation?

Should I do a normal desktop install with Gnome, then go out and search for other window managers?

or should I perform a normal workstation install BUT not install gnome and download it seperatly and install it that way?

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Old 01-16-2004, 03:44 PM   #2
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Red Hat is more 'bloated' than Slackware. Since Slack is more stripped down it takes less time to start up. You could do an extremely stripped down RH install and add just what you need or start uninstalling and removing.
 
Old 01-16-2004, 03:53 PM   #3
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ok, I'll give that a shot.

I would tend to agree with you about the the bloated-ness, but in the past that never bothered me for some reason, probably because everything I plugged into the thing was compatible with it.

sigh...
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I also found that I never really noticed it. RH still ran faster than my Win installs..and then I discovered Slackware.
 
Old 01-16-2004, 04:00 PM   #5
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I miss Red Hat...
 
Old 01-16-2004, 04:03 PM   #6
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Don't get me wrong, the 2 distros i keep coming back to are RH and Slack - purely because I like the 'feel' of them. But RH is bloaty - tho' not as bloaty as "other" OSes I could mention .....
 
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No no, I completely agree with you. Red Hat and Slack have definately become my favorites (though my hat does go off to the SuSe LiveEval, what an amazing cd).

I also look at it this way, if Linux is going to take off, some distro has to be bloated. Someone has to make the sacrifice to be user friendly-enough to allow the general populace to learn what to do. Even myself, someone who still knows what DOS is, and was confused by Macs, and Windows 95, still had trouble getting to know Red Hat Linux. Thankfully, Red Hat gave me power, some speed (Gnome is still pretty quick once loaded), and most of all usability.

Slack helped me continue what I learned in Red Hat. And as far as servers go, I will always use Red Hat do to the fact, that they make it far easier to install a Web Server than any other distro I have seen. I haven't seen any other distro offer a specific "server install" in their install programs.

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[quote]Originally posted by Brother Michael
I haven't seen any other distro offer a specific "server install" in there install programs.

I think Mandrake do.

But I agree with you on the bloat - a user friendly/newb friendly/install friendly distro has to have some degree of bloat, if only for the wizards. As long as the coding remains tight and things aren't added pointlessly (just features for features sake), Linux will still load and run better and more stably (if that is a word) than other OSes.
 
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Linux will still load and run better and more stably (if that is a word) than other OSes.
I think you want to use "...and be far more stable" but then again Lord knows me not no anglish majer

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Stably has grown on me since I last used it I may integrate into my conversation and see if it takes.

Just for fun, I checked www.dictionary.com, and beggar me if it isn't already a real word: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=stably

 
Old 01-16-2004, 05:20 PM   #11
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holy cow, thats incredible!

fine checkmate you win...
 
Old 01-16-2004, 05:33 PM   #12
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It's not a competition (he says, after a victory lap of his own ego. )
 
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ok, well back on topic...for now...Gnome, do I want to install it, or download it later, and compile it? Which will make it run faster?

Mike
 
Old 01-16-2004, 05:39 PM   #14
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oh here's a good one for ya...

if I download Enlightenment or Fluxbox, and then download apt-get, I should be able to run apt-get to obtain all the necassary file dependencies required to install those window managers right?

Mike
 
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If you don't install a window manager/desktop at all, then get hold of apt-get and configure the source list (hint, Lynx or Links will be invaluable) you could then install a "purer" desktop/window manager, rather than an RH one with all the bells and whistles. That should help matters.

It will take a bit of research though, so give yourself a good run up to it.
 
  


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